Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link

2015-02-28 Thread Chuck McCown
day. I had almost total free run of them. From: Bill Prince Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 2:27 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link I would think that DC would pose much less of an issue than AC. No stray expanding/collapsing magnetic fields. bp On 2/28/2015 1:19

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2015-02-28 Thread Bill Prince
ics-il.net> *Sent:* Saturday, February 28, 2015 2:53 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link They have been doing this for years, so maybe it has changed. *shrugs* - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com <https://w

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2015-02-28 Thread Ken Hohhof
microwave path than a monopole: http://www.rockislandcleanline.com/site/page/transmission-line-structures From: Mike Hammett Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 2:53 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link They have been doing this for years, so maybe it has changed. *shrugs

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2015-02-28 Thread Bill Prince
olutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> *From: *"Bill Prince" *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Saturday, February 28, 2015 2:41:30 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link When I looked at their web site, a couple different vo

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2015-02-28 Thread Mike Hammett
2015 2:33:14 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link Interesting how we've come full circle on power transmission. Thomas Edison's original "big distribution" project failed because it was essentially a DC transmission project. Back then, they were only able to do DC transmis

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2015-02-28 Thread Bill Prince
/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> *From: *"Bill Prince" *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Saturday, February 28, 2015 2:33:14 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link Interest

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2015-02-28 Thread Mike Hammett
I think they're running 1M vDC. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Bill Prince" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 2:33:14 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link Interesting

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2015-02-28 Thread Bill Prince
y 28, 2015 12:03 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link I have no doubt that eminent domain has been abused all over the country in the manner you described with the developer (that's why I provided the link about the Missouri port authority losing t

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2015-02-28 Thread Mike Hammett
ay, February 28, 2015 2:00:13 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link There is an ugly fight against a 500 mile high voltage DC power line through Iowa and Illinois and use of eminent domain to acquire the farmland. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Block-RICL-Rock-Island-Clean-Line/1330506102033

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2015-02-28 Thread Ken Hohhof
: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link It is a tool to be used as a last resort. You make no friends and it ends up costing you lots of money and goodwill. But it is a very effective tool in Utah. From: Trevor Bough Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 12:03 PM To: af@afmug.com

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2015-02-28 Thread Chuck McCown
It is a tool to be used as a last resort. You make no friends and it ends up costing you lots of money and goodwill. But it is a very effective tool in Utah. From: Trevor Bough Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 12:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link I have no doubt

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2015-02-28 Thread Trevor Bough
s > happened all over the country. > > *From:* Trevor Bough > *Sent:* Saturday, February 28, 2015 11:37 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link > > > The 5th Amendment just established just compensation for eminent domain. > It leaves it to the states

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2015-02-28 Thread Chuck McCown
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link The 5th Amendment just established just compensation for eminent domain. It leaves it to the states to define what "public use" is. And the landowner still always has the right to argue their point that it is not going to be used for public use. Luckily, I

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link

2015-02-28 Thread Trevor Bough
8, 2015 10:30 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link > > > As a property owner, I find that idea completely terrifying. I should absolutely have the right to say what is or is not on my property. Working in the utility industry, I still find that idea completely terrify

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2015-02-28 Thread Chuck McCown
The 5th amendment of the US constitution took that from you many years ago. From: Trevor Bough Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 10:30 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link As a property owner, I find that idea completely terrifying. I should absolutely have the right to say

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2015-02-28 Thread Glen Waldrop
Well said. - Original Message - From: Trevor Bough To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link As a property owner, I find that idea completely terrifying. I should absolutely have the right to say what is or is not on

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2015-02-28 Thread Mike Hammett
igent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Trevor Bough" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 12:10:19 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link Yep. I was confirming that was what I meant. I agree with your entire email and that

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2015-02-28 Thread Trevor Bough
ug.com > *Sent: *Saturday, February 28, 2015 11:51:42 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link > > I was referring to when they get dedicated easements outside of public > ROW. > On Feb 28, 2015 11:45 AM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > >> The entire road ROW is not

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2015-02-28 Thread Mike Hammett
*nods* As I indicated later in my e-mail. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Trevor Bough" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 11:51:42 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link I was

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2015-02-28 Thread Trevor Bough
any. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > ------ > *From: *"Trevor Bough" > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Saturday, February 28, 2015 11:30:16 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link > > As a pro

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2015-02-28 Thread Mike Hammett
and all damages\remediation should their maintenance result in needing any. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Trevor Bough" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 11:30:16 AM Subject: R

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2015-02-28 Thread Trevor Bough
> Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > -- > *From: *"Trevor Bough" > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Friday, February 27, 2015 6:56:45 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link > > Apparently Missourians fight to protec

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2015-02-28 Thread Mike Hammett
afmug.com Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 6:56:45 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link Apparently Missourians fight to protect their property rights more vigorously because, here anyway, it is a lengthy and expensive process. Landowners in MO can also be awarded legal fees if the condemning aut

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link

2015-02-27 Thread Trevor Bough
it was pretty much the easy > button. Just had to wait for the docket. > > *From:* Trevor Bough > *Sent:* Thursday, February 26, 2015 6:21 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link > > > It's not quite that easy... You have to be authorized b

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link

2015-02-27 Thread Chuck McCown
I have done it several times. In my cases it was pretty much the easy button. Just had to wait for the docket. From: Trevor Bough Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 6:21 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link It's not quite that easy... You have to be authorized by the

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2015-02-27 Thread Matt Brendle
Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 5:07 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link So for anybody who heard this live info, was there any indication as to whether we're subject to these rules if we're not actually selling broadband under the new defini

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2015-02-26 Thread David Milholen
nything in FCC On 2/26/2015 4:25 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Pirate broadband -Original Message- From: Glen Waldrop Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 3:19 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link We provide a service, not broadband. The fee is all labor. The Internet a

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link

2015-02-26 Thread Trevor Bough
m: Adam Moffett > Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 12:27 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link > > What eminent domain actions can a utility take? My "knowledge" on that > topic is all hearsay. > > I heard of a landowner who saw a company putt

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link

2015-02-26 Thread Chuck McCown
Pirate broadband -Original Message- From: Glen Waldrop Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 3:19 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link We provide a service, not broadband. The fee is all labor. The Internet access is a side effect of being connected to our massive

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2015-02-26 Thread Glen Waldrop
We provide a service, not broadband. The fee is all labor. The Internet access is a side effect of being connected to our massive wireless LAN party. - Original Message - From: "Bill Prince" To: Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live L

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2015-02-26 Thread Bill Prince
n easement or court order, cut down that pole. -Original Message- From: Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 12:27 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link What eminent domain actions can a utility take? My "knowledge" on that topic is all hearsay. I hea

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link

2015-02-26 Thread Adam Moffett
ly subject to any of this stuff? You can try... -Original Message- From: Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 12:52 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link What about a monopole with wireless base stations on it? Could I stick that anywhere unless someone sto

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link

2015-02-26 Thread Adam Moffett
Maybe I should wait until ATT tries :) You can try... -Original Message- From: Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 12:52 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link What about a monopole with wireless base stations on it? Could I stick that anywhere unless

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link

2015-02-26 Thread Josh Reynolds
to:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link The interweb apparently has not been trucking along this far without a referree on the field. On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Glen Waldrop mailto:gwl...@cngwireless.net>> wrote: We need to figure out a way

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link

2015-02-26 Thread Chuck McCown
You can try... -Original Message- From: Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 12:52 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link What about a monopole with wireless base stations on it? Could I stick that anywhere unless someone stops me? If you need to cross

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link

2015-02-26 Thread Adam Moffett
pole. -Original Message- From: Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 12:27 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link What eminent domain actions can a utility take? My "knowledge" on that topic is all hearsay. I heard of a landowner who saw a company putti

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2015-02-26 Thread Chuck McCown
bject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link What eminent domain actions can a utility take? My "knowledge" on that topic is all hearsay. I heard of a landowner who saw a company putting a pole in an empty lot that he owned across the street from his house. He watched them set the pole and then af

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link

2015-02-26 Thread Adam Moffett
What eminent domain actions can a utility take? My "knowledge" on that topic is all hearsay. I heard of a landowner who saw a company putting a pole in an empty lot that he owned across the street from his house. He watched them set the pole and then after the workers left he went out with a

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link

2015-02-26 Thread Glen Waldrop
Well said. - Original Message - From: That One Guy To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link will they be providing free stitches for the rectal tears? On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote

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2015-02-26 Thread Chuck McCown
Naw, you gotta bug them for the support check. From: That One Guy Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 12:16 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link so does this mean now if a cripples yourporn or redtube buffers we can expect a call from the fcc? On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 1:11 PM

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2015-02-26 Thread That One Guy
> *From:* Chuck McCown > *Sent:* Thursday, February 26, 2015 11:56 AM > *To:* Chuck McCown > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link > > Y’all are now “Utilities” so ROW acquisition should not be as much of > an issue. You may even have the right of eminent domain now. > &g

[AFMUG] FCC Live Link

2015-02-26 Thread Chuck McCown
“enables the FCC to support the internet as a separate service” That my friends should be subsidy music playing for you. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 11:56 AM To: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link Y’all are now “Utilities” so ROW acquisition should

[AFMUG] FCC Live Link

2015-02-26 Thread Chuck McCown
happen. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 10:36 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link But, there is an opportunity for all of you to claim parity with the ILEC world if they do this. From: Glen Waldrop Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 10:34 AM To: af

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2015-02-26 Thread Sterling Jacobson
] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 11:06 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link Did you hear the first presentation about removing the bar against municipalities from operating ISPs? If that is adopted UTOPIA will become an ISP, not just a pseudo shell

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2015-02-26 Thread Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc
or its contents by unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly prohibited. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 1:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link will they be providing free stitches for the

[AFMUG] FCC Live Link

2015-02-26 Thread Chuck McCown
landscape may change... From: Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 10:36 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link But, there is an opportunity for all of you to claim parity with the ILEC world if they do this. From: Glen Waldrop Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 10

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2015-02-26 Thread That One Guy
> > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy > *Sent:* Thursday, February 26, 2015 10:51 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link > > > > The interweb apparently has not been trucking along this far without a > ref

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2015-02-26 Thread Sterling Jacobson
You know what chairman? Just exempt everyone from this regulation except the top 10 including Comcast. “Problem” solved. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 10:51 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link The interweb

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2015-02-26 Thread Glen Waldrop
This guy is saying one thing and actually doing another. I truly don't like politicians. - Original Message - From: That One Guy To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 11:51 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link The interweb apparently has not been tru

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2015-02-26 Thread That One Guy
Jacobson > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Sent:* Thursday, February 26, 2015 11:41 AM > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link > > None of us need that parity, do we? I get along just fine without it. > > > > And it comes with so many strings and fees that it will bomb many ISPs

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link

2015-02-26 Thread Glen Waldrop
system" or just another socialist push. - Original Message - From: Sterling Jacobson To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link None of us need that parity, do we? I get along just fine without it. And it comes

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2015-02-26 Thread Sterling Jacobson
network protocols and tools to let the government in on our networks. All bad. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 10:37 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link But, there is an opportunity for all of you to claim

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2015-02-26 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
Oreilley...he spoke here yesterday in personor tues Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "Glen Waldrop" To: Subject: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link Date: Thu, Feb 26, 2015 11:27 AM This guy seems to be spot on so far as well. - Origin

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2015-02-26 Thread Chuck McCown
Is this the minority dissent of a decision already made that we are listening to? From: Glen Waldrop Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 10:34 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link I caught the end of Pai. As O'Reilly said, they're skipping a bunch of stuff. Cove

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2015-02-26 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
It was. Oreilley speaking now Both have been to wispa events Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: Subject: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link Date: Thu, Feb 26, 2015 11:20 AM Commissioner Pi maybe? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-23

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2015-02-26 Thread Chuck McCown
But, there is an opportunity for all of you to claim parity with the ILEC world if they do this. From: Glen Waldrop Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 10:34 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link I caught the end of Pai. As O'Reilly said, they're skipping a bunc

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2015-02-26 Thread Glen Waldrop
:31 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link Holy hell, that speech and position of Ajit Pai is my definite opinion. He’s my new hero. Michael O’Rielly is also starting off strong against this Title II crap. The strongest point I get from this is that the new law isn’t

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link

2015-02-26 Thread Sterling Jacobson
interest. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Glen Waldrop Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 10:28 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link This guy seems to be spot on so far as well. - Original Message - From: Jaime Solorza<mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com&

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2015-02-26 Thread Glen Waldrop
This guy seems to be spot on so far as well. - Original Message - From: Jaime Solorza To: Animal Farm Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link Installing rocket ..keep it coming Jaime Solorza On Feb 26, 2015 10:17 AM

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2015-02-26 Thread Jaime Solorza
n. > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Tyson Burris @ > Internet Communications Inc > *Sent:* Thursday, February 26, 2015 6:47 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Cc:* memb...@wispa.org > *Subject:* [AFMUG] FCC Live Link > > > > Big show today. Put

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2015-02-26 Thread Steve Utick
boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Tyson Burris @ >> Internet Communications Inc >> *Sent:* Thursday, February 26, 2015 6:47 AM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Cc:* memb...@wispa.org >> *Subject:* [AFMUG] FCC Live Link >> >> >> >> Big show today. P

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2015-02-26 Thread Sterling Jacobson
memb...@wispa.org Subject: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link Big show today. Put your votes in and grab your favorite drink. http://www.fcc.gov/live Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 317-738-0320 Daytime # 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # Online: www.surfic

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2015-02-26 Thread Josh Luthman
directly. > > > > I think he is definitely spot on. > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Tyson Burris @ > Internet Communications Inc > *Sent:* Thursday, February 26, 2015 6:47 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Cc:* memb...@wispa.org > *S

[AFMUG] FCC Live Link

2015-02-26 Thread Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc
Big show today. Put your votes in and grab your favorite drink. http://www.fcc.gov/live Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 317-738-0320 Daytime # 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # Online: www.surfici.net What can ICI do for