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- Original Message -
From: Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, May 8, 2015 3:10:20 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Laying your own fiber?
Avoid CLEC. Unnecessary expense and paperwork. And now, with the latest FCC net
around the content providers rules against such a thing. Again, no money in
it.
From: Zephyr Broadband
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 10:56 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Laying your own fiber?
So we've started looking at trenching our own fiber but we've run into a couple
roadblocks and I
Say you are TV if it help you get the permit. Deny you are TV it it helps.
Easy to play both sides of that issue.
-Original Message-
From: Ken Hohhof
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 8:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Laying your own fiber?
I don't see how these are cable
VDOC
IPTV Video over DOCSIS
So, what is that?
TV over IP over TV
From: Josh Reynolds
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 8:48 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Laying your own fiber?
We're moving to a position where cable companies won't be putting in too much
cable, and where
authority to cite you chapter and verse if they deny you.
Otherwise they are discriminating against you.
From: Mike Hammett
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 4:04 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Laying your own fiber?
Go to your state level elected officials. Tell them you need ROW
:* Monday, January 19, 2015
4:04 PM
JR *To:* af@afmug.com*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Laying your own fiber?
JR Go to your state level elected officials. Tell them you need ROW access
JR and until now you could have done it by being a CLEC, but the PUC is no
JR longer honoring that, so you need them
the residents come forward and push for a change.
That has worked for me too.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Zephyr Broadband
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 10:57 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Laying your own fiber?
So we've started looking at trenching our own fiber
as a peer with the CATV.
I would pressure any authority to cite you chapter and verse if they deny
you. Otherwise they are discriminating against you.
*From:* Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net
*Sent:* Monday, January 19, 2015 4:04 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Laying your own fiber
Broadband zephyrbroadb...@gmail.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 11:56:58 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Laying your own fiber?
So we've started looking at trenching our own fiber but we've run into a couple
roadblocks and I thought I'd reach out to the list and see if others have run
: [AFMUG] Laying your own fiber?
AFAIK, the 2 primary ways to get access to ROW for most of the US is a
Franchise agreement and/or CLEC certification. This gets you into the Utility
ROW Easements without issues. Many properties have ROW Utility easements.
If you plan to do Video, you might
they are discriminating against you.
*From:* Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net
*Sent:* Monday, January 19, 2015 4:04 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Laying your own fiber?
Go to your state level elected officials. Tell them you need ROW access
and until now you could have done it by being a CLEC
on the city or county. But
that is straightforward.
If on poles, much more paperwork and regulation.
From: Zephyr Broadband
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 10:56 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Laying your own fiber?
So we've started looking at trenching our own fiber but we've run
So we've started looking at trenching our own fiber but we've run into a
couple roadblocks and I thought I'd reach out to the list and see if others
have run into similar issues. Obviously this is location and jurisdiction
dependent, but we can't seem to get anyone from City Hall to return our
Yeah, I'd stay away from video. It is nice if you're competing with
cablecos, but the payoff just isn't there. I'd try just blowing the
cableco's internet speeds out of the water to stay competitive.
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:
AFAIK, the 2 primary
We're doing that where we can, but the lack of reasonable tower/roof access
makes network planning a pain in the ass. We had looked at FTTH in select
neighborhoods, but getting ROW acccess has proven to be tougher than we
expected. Shame on us for wanting to compete with the incumbant telco
AFAIK, the 2 primary ways to get access to ROW for most of the US is a
Franchise agreement and/or CLEC certification. This gets you into the
Utility ROW Easements without issues. Many properties have ROW Utility
easements.
If you plan to do Video, you might as well do the CATV franchise
AFAIK, the 2 primary ways to get access to ROW for most of the US is a
Franchise agreement and/or CLEC certification. This gets you into the
Utility ROW Easements without issues. Many properties have ROW Utility
easements.
If you plan to do Video, you might as well do the CATV franchise
I spent a bunch of time researching this in Ohio.
Ohio has regulations in place for pole attach / duct access for ISP’s along
with a requirement for tariffed rates from the pole owners. Curiously even
though as an ISP we can go on the poles, we still have to obtain permission to
be in
Then I guess your option is to get a franchise. Doesn't matter if you are
doing video or not.
Regards,
Chuck
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Zephyr Broadband zephyrbroadb...@gmail.com
wrote:
We're doing that where we can, but the lack of reasonable tower/roof
access makes network planning
-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 12:04 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Laying your own fiber?
AFAIK, the 2 primary ways to get access to ROW for most of the US is a
Franchise agreement and/or CLEC certification. This gets you into the Utility
ROW
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