Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-04-04 Thread Peter Kranz
Eric Kuhnke Sent: Friday, April 01, 2016 3:06 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio? Looking at the 2200FX it has regular SFP ports, so at 2Gbps (500 MHz channel 32QAM?) FDD, you can only achieve 2Gbps by doing an 802.3ad between two routers. In which ca

Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-04-02 Thread Josh Reynolds
FDD radios >> >> >> in >> >> >> development and field testing from all of the significant players in >> >> >> the >> >> >> industry. >> >> >> >> >> >> I would expect the 'new' 5Gbps to 10Gbps radios to ship in the US at

Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-04-02 Thread Eric Kuhnke
. The high > >> >> power > >> >> unit is not on their website but due next month and its really much > >> >> more > >> >> than the cheap one honestly. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Peter

Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-04-02 Thread Mike Hammett
Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio? You don't do it on a router, you bond it with a switch and do the layer 4 hashing on it's ASIC, then uplink it via SFP+.to your router. On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 5:45 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > I am not aware of any notable backbone-ready rou

Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-04-01 Thread Josh Reynolds
t;> >> power >> >> unit is not on their website but due next month and its really much >> >> more >> >> than the cheap one honestly. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Peter Kranz >> >> www.UnwiredLtd

Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-04-01 Thread Eric Kuhnke
e next month and its really much more > >> than the cheap one honestly. > >> > >> > >> > >> Peter Kranz > >> www.UnwiredLtd.com > >> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 > >> Mobile: 510-207-0000 > >> pkr...@unwiredltd.co

Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-04-01 Thread Josh Reynolds
>> >> >> >> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke >> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 1:55 PM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio? >> >> >> >> Without violating any manuf

Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-04-01 Thread Eric Kuhnke
*Eric Kuhnke > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 30, 2016 1:55 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio? > > > > Without violating any manufacturer's NDA, this is the tip of an iceberg, > the Russians just happen to be publishing info a tiny

Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-04-01 Thread Peter Kranz
7- <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 1:55 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio? Without violating any manufacturer's NDA, this is the

Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-03-30 Thread Eric Kuhnke
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Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-03-30 Thread Gino Villarini
t;> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> -- >> *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" >> *To: *af@afmug.com >> *Sent: *Monday, March 28, 2016 5

Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-03-30 Thread Eric Kuhnke
twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------ > *From: *"Eric Kuhnke"

Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-03-30 Thread Mike Hammett
" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 5:42:25 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio? http://www.elva-1.com/news_events/a40107 http://www.elva-1.com/products/a40106 http://www.elva-1.com/data/files/Datasheets/2016_02_24_PPC-10G.pdf 2000 MHz wide channel and 256QAM

Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-03-30 Thread Daniel White
Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 7:44 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio? Clear sky atmospheric attenuation is definitely different at 40 GHz than 71-86 GHz. Might do a

Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-03-29 Thread Mike Hammett
h 29, 2016 7:57:53 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio? The thing about the last page is that it doesn't jive with the radio being 10 Gbps capable. They're listing distances with 60cm antenna and QPSK modulation/250 MHz wide channel, which will result in throughp

Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-03-29 Thread Ken Hohhof
Wives and girlfriends? From: Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 7:53 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio? With as much speculation and WAGs that were in the thread so far, I assumed I was the first to actually read it. - Mike Hammett

Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-03-29 Thread Eric Kuhnke
*To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Tuesday, March 29, 2016 8:37:54 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio? > > Never mind, I see on the next page a 12 mile claim for 80 GHz as well. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent C

Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-03-29 Thread Eric Kuhnke
lt;https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > -- > *From: *"Ken Hohhof" >

Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-03-29 Thread Mike Hammett
@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 7:47:18 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio? Did you actually scroll down to the last page . where the expected ranges for the different rain zones are listed ? :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street M

Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-03-29 Thread Mike Hammett
or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net - Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 8:37:54 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio? Never mind, I see on the next page a 12 mile claim for 80 GHz as well. - M

Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-03-29 Thread Mike Hammett
tions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Ken Hohhof" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 7:39:46 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio? Maybe it’s a civilian version of a Russian military heat ray weapon

Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-03-29 Thread Gino Villarini
FL 33155 > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 > > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > > -- > > *From: *"Mike Hammett" > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Tuesday, March 29, 2016 8:37:54 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG

Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-03-29 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
.net > From: "Mike Hammett" > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 8:37:54 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio? > Never mind, I see on the next page a 12 mile claim for 80 GHz as well. > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent C

Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-03-29 Thread Eric Kuhnke
m/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ---------- > *From: *"Jaime Solorza" > *To: *"Animal F

Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-03-29 Thread Ken Hohhof
Maybe it’s a civilian version of a Russian military heat ray weapon? From: Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 7:37 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio? Never mind, I see on the next page a 12 mile claim for 80 GHz as well. - Mike Hammett

Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-03-29 Thread Mike Hammett
7:31:12 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio? After getting a chance to catch up, it looks like they offer that platform in both 40 GHz and 70\80, so perhaps range is in best case on 40? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Bro

Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-03-29 Thread Mike Hammett
Jaime Solorza" To: "Animal Farm" Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 6:19:26 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio? Wonder if Solectek will rebrand this one as well. 12 miles On Mar 28, 2016 4:42 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" < eric.kuh...@gmail.com > wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-03-29 Thread Eric Kuhnke
gt; > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Monday, March 28, 2016 6:58 PM > *To:* af > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio? > > > > Well, they didn't say it would work that well on Earth... how a

Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-03-29 Thread Paul McCall
I read that too From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Daniel White Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 7:30 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio? I read somewhere that 60GHz is commonly used in satellite to satellite communication due to low probability

Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-03-29 Thread Daniel White
; afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 6:58 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio? Well, they didn't say it would work that well on Earth... how are they supposed

Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-03-28 Thread Gino Villarini
mrsp? On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 7:57 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > Well, they didn't say it would work that well on Earth... how are they > supposed to know you aren't going to be installing these links on the moon? > > On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 6:40 PM, Eric Kuhnke > wrote: > >> 12 miles is a silly c

Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-03-28 Thread Mathew Howard
Well, they didn't say it would work that well on Earth... how are they supposed to know you aren't going to be installing these links on the moon? On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 6:40 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > 12 miles is a silly claim... Marketing department vs reality. > > It appears to be +22 Tx powe

Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-03-28 Thread Eric Kuhnke
12 miles is a silly claim... Marketing department vs reality. It appears to be +22 Tx power into a 51dBi gain antenna, so not much different than any other 80 GHz product in the link budget. Sure it'll be -51 at 7km in clear rain free skies, or something like that. But the link will be incredibly

Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-03-28 Thread Mike Hammett
ect: Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio? Neat! But I can't imagine you get too much range at 256QAM. On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 6:19 PM, Jaime Solorza < losguyswirel...@gmail.com > wrote: Wonder if Solectek will rebrand this one as well. 12 miles On Mar 28, 20

Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-03-28 Thread Mathew Howard
Neat! But I can't imagine you get too much range at 256QAM. On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 6:19 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Wonder if Solectek will rebrand this one as well. 12 miles > On Mar 28, 2016 4:42 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" wrote: > >> http://www.elva-1.com/news_events/a40107 >> >> http://www.elva

Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-03-28 Thread Jaime Solorza
Wonder if Solectek will rebrand this one as well. 12 miles On Mar 28, 2016 4:42 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" wrote: > http://www.elva-1.com/news_events/a40107 > > http://www.elva-1.com/products/a40106 > > http://www.elva-1.com/data/files/Datasheets/2016_02_24_PPC-10G.pdf > > > 2000 MHz wide channel and

[AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-03-28 Thread Eric Kuhnke
http://www.elva-1.com/news_events/a40107 http://www.elva-1.com/products/a40106 http://www.elva-1.com/data/files/Datasheets/2016_02_24_PPC-10G.pdf 2000 MHz wide channel and 256QAM for 10 Gbps in the FDD 71-86 GHz bands. Question is... What's the Rx level needed for that, and how quickly does it