Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz

We had a lot of 4 mile+ links on AF24's that worked perfectly in ALASKA on the coast. Some places have more rain/hr than others. On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 5:11 PM, Adair Winter wrote: > AF24 is only going to be 5 9's reliable to about 1-2 miles depending on > your

Re: [AFMUG] tying down wires

I tried those once, and the adhesive failed in the Summer when the box got hot. Granted, this was for another company before we were using fans. Have any of you been using them long-term? How do they hold up over the years? On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 10:26 AM, David Coudron <

[AFMUG] Municameras

Anyone here ever been involved in citywide surveillance? A starting point being 4x intersection cameras. 1984 being a good jump off point. Whats kind of system would cover roughly 8.5 square miles? (relatively minute in city size) This is multiple thousands of cameras. Pretty sure there isnt a

Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz

Seriously, these questions, please, please, please! State your rain region. Here,. id like to punch anybody in the eye who lies to you and tells you 24 GHZ is a good idea over 1.2 miles ( I dont care the KM Im mercan) but some guy in a desert might tell you its an awesome idea at 6 miles, I dont

Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz

What others have said about distance. Short (up to 3 miles or so) 24 GHz. Medium (up to 8-9 miles) 18 GHz. Long (up to 20 miles) 11 GHz. Longest 6 GHz. I disagree with the B11 versus AF11. The AF11 will provide more throughput on less spectrum. Probably less expensive too. bp

Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz

...in utah On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 12:33 AM, Steve Jones wrote: > Seriously, these questions, please, please, please! State your rain > region. Here,. id like to punch anybody in the eye who lies to you and > tells you 24 GHZ is a good idea over 1.2 miles ( I dont

Re: [AFMUG] tying down wires

I stuck them on painted drywall once and they fell off the next day. Stuck them on a painted metal box 3 years ago and they're still there. Adhesive performance definitely varies by surface, so I do back them up with a screw wherever that's feasible. Anyway on the original topic we've

Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz

11Ghz 6-10 miles 24GZ good for 1-2miles in high rain fade areas, longer distance if you have backup and don't care about rain fade. >>>For 11 GHz, we would likely stay with the Mimosa product line Not a bad decision, depending on channel availability don't chalk off the

Re: [AFMUG] tying down wires

We use them in our enclosures for yearshold up well Jaime Solorza On Feb 10, 2018 4:53 PM, "Jeremy" wrote: > I tried those once, and the adhesive failed in the Summer when the box got > hot. Granted, this was for another company before we were using fans. > Have

Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz

For 6-10 miles 24 ghz its way out of the question. Stick to 11 ghz. From: Af > on behalf of David Coudron > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com"

Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz

Yes, the AF11 can do more throughput on the same spectrum compared to the B11, but the B11 can use more spectrum (a lot more, granted), so it can do more throughput than the AF11 can. You can get close to a full gig in one direction with the B11 (assuming you can license enough spectrum), but you

Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz

Our experience has been we get more throughput and more reliability from the AF11 than the B11. The B11s always seemed to be choking on high throughput. We gave up on them, and the AF11s are easier to license in congested areas anyway. bp On 2/10/2018 5:12 PM,

[AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz

I know this topic has come up before, but thought I would throw it out again to hear additional thoughts as products continue to evolve. We have been doing primarily 5 GHz backhaul using Mimosa products for the last couple of years. Their frequency reuse has really helped us, but we are

Re: [AFMUG] Municameras

vendor OT responses appreciated On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 11:56 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > Anyone here ever been involved in citywide surveillance? > A starting point being 4x intersection cameras. > 1984 being a good jump off point. > > Whats kind of system would cover

Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz

I have always been scared to use them (24 Ghz) beyond 2 miles. I want to know (and perhaps Liz or Tim are still lurking here), is there any way to re-use your 11 GHz channels in your local area? The big problem for me is the cost of the license. UBNT or Mimosa ought to figure out a way to

Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz

Yeah... a 6 mile 24ghz link would probably work, but it's going to be dropping pretty much every time it rains... and I'd be kind of surprised if you could even get airfiber 24s to link at 10 miles. Interference isn't really something you typically have to worry about on 24ghz, even though it's

Re: [AFMUG] tying down wires

our partner retail shop got in with office depot for a period, we had access to super dirt cheap command strip stuff. I loved it here at home, like jesus spat his child juice upon my walls to absolve me of all nail holes. but in outdoor enclosures, it jut falls off like a flaccid member of an

Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz

AF24 is only going to be 5 9's reliable to about 1-2 miles depending on your rain zone. for 2-4 miles you could use 23Ghz (way more EIRP than 24Ghz) 4-8 miles 18Ghz 8-20 miles 11 Ghz and anything longer than that 6Ghz. unless you can mount really big dishes for 11. On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 5:05

Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz

AF24HD, 5 Miles Max in perfect conditions... On 02/10/2018 02:57 PM, David Coudron wrote: I know this topic has come up before, but thought I would throw it out again to hear additional thoughts as products continue to evolve. We have been doing primarily 5 GHz backhaul using Mimosa products

Re: [AFMUG] tying down wires

We have started using these zip tie saddles as well inside our cabinets. What we like about them besides being cheap (10 cents apiece) is that they have adhesive on the back for quick connection to metal/plastic and a screw hole for attaching to more porous material. Additionally you can

Re: [AFMUG] tying down wires

I think I spent $4 at Home Depot yesterday for one to play with. From: Steve Jones Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 6:59 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] tying down wires it works but they run 40 some bucks around here On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 6:47 PM, Jon Langeler