Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?
Our APC 3000's are in water towers (5) ambient temp -40 to -60 F and they have been up for 6 years. We got them from UPS4less for about 600.00 each. One I am replacing this month it has been in our Water tower #1 since 2006 with no problems. Mitch Koep On 3/28/2018 10:24 PM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote: We did as well. Love it they simply stop passing power though at all. So DEAD site. *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jon Langeler *Sent:* Wednesday, March 28, 2018 8:31 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS? We’ve had upss simply shut down below freezing which is totally not cool Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. On Mar 28, 2018, at 9:03 AM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote: Yeah temperature compensation is an oft overlooked feature. -- Original Message -- From: "Jon Langeler" <jon-ispli...@michwave.net <mailto:jon-ispli...@michwave.net>> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: 3/27/2018 7:13:57 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS? How do they handle say 0 deg F? Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. On Mar 27, 2018, at 5:29 PM, SmarterBroadband <li...@sbb.net <mailto:li...@sbb.net>> wrote: OK first this UPS does NOT SNMP. However that said the APC BG500 (APC Back-UPS Pro 500) with Lithium Ion batteries is a nice little unit that comes with built in ethernet. It does have email alerting which you could use to send Text alerts to your phones. We like them for micro sites. Adam *From:* Af [_mailto:af-bounces@afmug.com_] *On Behalf Of *Justin Marshall *Sent:* Tuesday, March 27, 2018 10:47 AM *To:* _af@afmug.com_ <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS? Hi, Does anyone know of any cheap consumer level UPS’s that can be monitored via SNMP over ethernet? Something non-rack mountable and that doesn’t require external batteries? Everything I find wants to be monitored through USB with proprietary programs like Powerchute, etc… Thanks, Justin
Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?
We did as well. Love it they simply stop passing power though at all. So DEAD site. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jon Langeler Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 8:31 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS? We’ve had upss simply shut down below freezing which is totally not cool Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. On Mar 28, 2018, at 9:03 AM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: Yeah temperature compensation is an oft overlooked feature. -- Original Message -- From: "Jon Langeler" <jon-ispli...@michwave.net> To: af@afmug.com Sent: 3/27/2018 7:13:57 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS? How do they handle say 0 deg F? Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. On Mar 27, 2018, at 5:29 PM, SmarterBroadband <li...@sbb.net> wrote: OK first this UPS does NOT SNMP. However that said the APC BG500 (APC Back-UPS Pro 500) with Lithium Ion batteries is a nice little unit that comes with built in ethernet. It does have email alerting which you could use to send Text alerts to your phones. We like them for micro sites. Adam From: Af [ <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Justin Marshall Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 10:47 AM To: <mailto:af@afmug.com> af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS? Hi, Does anyone know of any cheap consumer level UPS’s that can be monitored via SNMP over ethernet? Something non-rack mountable and that doesn’t require external batteries? Everything I find wants to be monitored through USB with proprietary programs like Powerchute, etc… Thanks, Justin
Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?
Think it's cheaper to use an APC with the rack cards (9617-9619) from ebay. They're roughly $15. The SNMP support is fantastic, better than Mikrotik IMO. Using Powercode I get alerts when the batteries get used at all (dipped below 100%), the input/output voltage is anything outside of 120 +/- 10%, and a few other things. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Justin Marshall <just...@pdmnet.net> wrote: > Reason I ask, is because reading the Mikrotik forums really make it sound > hit or miss as to which APC’s work with which model Mikrotiks > > > > This thread for e.g. https://forum.mikrotik.com/ > viewtopic.php?f=2=12670=428800=rb2011+ups+usb#p428800. This guy > tested different APC’s with different Mikrotiks and had mixed results even > between different CCR1036’s. One CCR1036 saw 9 out of the 10 UPS’s he was > testing, but another CCR1036 only saw 1 of the 10. > > > > Thanks for the head’s up on the USB speed > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Colin Stanners > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 28, 2018 11:36 AM > > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS? > > > > Note that some Mikrotik USB ports only run at USB2.0 speed (480mbit) while > many UPSes only run at USB1.0 speeds (12 / 1.5mbit). I saw this issue while > trying to connect a Back-UPS 350 to a RB951. IIRC inserting a USB2.0 hub > between them will fix it. > > > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 7:54 AM, Justin Marshall <just...@pdmnet.net> > wrote: > > Can you recommend a particular model of APC (preferably cheap) that works > over USB to a Mikrotik 2011? > > > > I’ve tested with a couple older ones I have around here, and can’t get the > 2011 to recognize the APC through /system ups. > > > > Thanks, > > Justin > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jason Wilson > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 27, 2018 1:50 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS? > > > > Most APC’s can be monitored over USP through a Mikrotik router (anyone > with a USB port). That is what we do for out smaller site, in-fact we > usually add external batteries for longer runtime. > > > > Jason > > Jason Wilson > > Remotely Located > > Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places. > > 530-651-1736 <(530)%20651-1736> Office > > 530-748-9608 <(530)%20748-9608> Cell > > www.remotelylocated.com > > > > On Mar 27, 2018, at 10:47 AM, Justin Marshall <just...@pdmnet.net> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Does anyone know of any cheap consumer level UPS’s that can be monitored > via SNMP over ethernet? > > Something non-rack mountable and that doesn’t require external batteries? > > Everything I find wants to be monitored through USB with proprietary > programs like Powerchute, etc… > > > > Thanks, > > Justin > > > > >
Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?
Reason I ask, is because reading the Mikrotik forums really make it sound hit or miss as to which APC’s work with which model Mikrotiks This thread for e.g. https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=2=12670=428800=rb2011+ups+usb#p428800. This guy tested different APC’s with different Mikrotiks and had mixed results even between different CCR1036’s. One CCR1036 saw 9 out of the 10 UPS’s he was testing, but another CCR1036 only saw 1 of the 10. Thanks for the head’s up on the USB speed From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Colin Stanners Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 11:36 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS? Note that some Mikrotik USB ports only run at USB2.0 speed (480mbit) while many UPSes only run at USB1.0 speeds (12 / 1.5mbit). I saw this issue while trying to connect a Back-UPS 350 to a RB951. IIRC inserting a USB2.0 hub between them will fix it. On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 7:54 AM, Justin Marshall <just...@pdmnet.net<mailto:just...@pdmnet.net>> wrote: Can you recommend a particular model of APC (preferably cheap) that works over USB to a Mikrotik 2011? I’ve tested with a couple older ones I have around here, and can’t get the 2011 to recognize the APC through /system ups. Thanks, Justin From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Jason Wilson Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 1:50 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS? Most APC’s can be monitored over USP through a Mikrotik router (anyone with a USB port). That is what we do for out smaller site, in-fact we usually add external batteries for longer runtime. Jason Jason Wilson Remotely Located Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places. 530-651-1736<tel:(530)%20651-1736> Office 530-748-9608<tel:(530)%20748-9608> Cell www.remotelylocated.com<http://www.remotelylocated.com> On Mar 27, 2018, at 10:47 AM, Justin Marshall <just...@pdmnet.net<mailto:just...@pdmnet.net>> wrote: Hi, Does anyone know of any cheap consumer level UPS’s that can be monitored via SNMP over ethernet? Something non-rack mountable and that doesn’t require external batteries? Everything I find wants to be monitored through USB with proprietary programs like Powerchute, etc… Thanks, Justin
Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?
Note that some Mikrotik USB ports only run at USB2.0 speed (480mbit) while many UPSes only run at USB1.0 speeds (12 / 1.5mbit). I saw this issue while trying to connect a Back-UPS 350 to a RB951. IIRC inserting a USB2.0 hub between them will fix it. On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 7:54 AM, Justin Marshall <just...@pdmnet.net> wrote: > Can you recommend a particular model of APC (preferably cheap) that works > over USB to a Mikrotik 2011? > > > > I’ve tested with a couple older ones I have around here, and can’t get the > 2011 to recognize the APC through /system ups. > > > > Thanks, > > Justin > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jason Wilson > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 27, 2018 1:50 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS? > > > > Most APC’s can be monitored over USP through a Mikrotik router (anyone > with a USB port). That is what we do for out smaller site, in-fact we > usually add external batteries for longer runtime. > > > > Jason > > Jason Wilson > > Remotely Located > > Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places. > > 530-651-1736 <(530)%20651-1736> Office > > 530-748-9608 <(530)%20748-9608> Cell > > www.remotelylocated.com > > > > On Mar 27, 2018, at 10:47 AM, Justin Marshall <just...@pdmnet.net> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Does anyone know of any cheap consumer level UPS’s that can be monitored > via SNMP over ethernet? > > Something non-rack mountable and that doesn’t require external batteries? > > Everything I find wants to be monitored through USB with proprietary > programs like Powerchute, etc… > > > > Thanks, > > Justin > > >
Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?
To be honest I go to staples pick one that has a USB port. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 28, 2018, at 5:54 AM, Justin Marshall <just...@pdmnet.net> wrote: > > Can you recommend a particular model of APC (preferably cheap) that works > over USB to a Mikrotik 2011? > > I’ve tested with a couple older ones I have around here, and can’t get the > 2011 to recognize the APC through /system ups. > > Thanks, > Justin > > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason Wilson > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 1:50 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS? > > Most APC’s can be monitored over USP through a Mikrotik router (anyone with a > USB port). That is what we do for out smaller site, in-fact we usually add > external batteries for longer runtime. > > Jason > Jason Wilson > Remotely Located > Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places. > 530-651-1736 Office > 530-748-9608 Cell > www.remotelylocated.com > > > On Mar 27, 2018, at 10:47 AM, Justin Marshall <just...@pdmnet.net> wrote: > > Hi, > > Does anyone know of any cheap consumer level UPS’s that can be monitored via > SNMP over ethernet? > Something non-rack mountable and that doesn’t require external batteries? > Everything I find wants to be monitored through USB with proprietary programs > like Powerchute, etc… > > Thanks, > Justin >
Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?
We’ve had upss simply shut down below freezing which is totally not cool Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Mar 28, 2018, at 9:03 AM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Yeah temperature compensation is an oft overlooked feature. > > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Jon Langeler" <jon-ispli...@michwave.net> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: 3/27/2018 7:13:57 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS? > >> How do they handle say 0 deg F? >> >> Jon Langeler >> Michwave Technologies, Inc. >> >> >>> On Mar 27, 2018, at 5:29 PM, SmarterBroadband <li...@sbb.net> wrote: >>> >>> OK first this UPS does NOT SNMP. >>> >>> However that said the APC BG500 (APC Back-UPS Pro 500) with Lithium Ion >>> batteries is a nice little unit that comes with built in ethernet. It >>> does have email alerting which you could use to send Text alerts to your >>> phones. We like them for micro sites. >>> >>> Adam >>> >>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Justin Marshall >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 10:47 AM >>> To: af@afmug.com >>> Subject: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS? >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Does anyone know of any cheap consumer level UPS’s that can be monitored >>> via SNMP over ethernet? >>> Something non-rack mountable and that doesn’t require external batteries? >>> Everything I find wants to be monitored through USB with proprietary >>> programs like Powerchute, etc… >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Justin >>>
Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?
Yeah temperature compensation is an oft overlooked feature. -- Original Message -- From: "Jon Langeler" <jon-ispli...@michwave.net> To: af@afmug.com Sent: 3/27/2018 7:13:57 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS? How do they handle say 0 deg F? Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. On Mar 27, 2018, at 5:29 PM, SmarterBroadband <li...@sbb.net> wrote: OK first this UPS does NOT SNMP. However that said the APC BG500 (APC Back-UPS Pro 500) with Lithium Ion batteries is a nice little unit that comes with built in ethernet. It does have email alerting which you could use to send Text alerts to your phones. We like them for micro sites. Adam From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Justin Marshall Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 10:47 AM To:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS? Hi, Does anyone know of any cheap consumer level UPS’s that can be monitored via SNMP over ethernet? Something non-rack mountable and that doesn’t require external batteries? Everything I find wants to be monitored through USB with proprietary programs like Powerchute, etc… Thanks, Justin
Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?
Can you recommend a particular model of APC (preferably cheap) that works over USB to a Mikrotik 2011? I’ve tested with a couple older ones I have around here, and can’t get the 2011 to recognize the APC through /system ups. Thanks, Justin From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason Wilson Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 1:50 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS? Most APC’s can be monitored over USP through a Mikrotik router (anyone with a USB port). That is what we do for out smaller site, in-fact we usually add external batteries for longer runtime. Jason Jason Wilson Remotely Located Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places. 530-651-1736 Office 530-748-9608 Cell www.remotelylocated.com<http://www.remotelylocated.com> On Mar 27, 2018, at 10:47 AM, Justin Marshall <just...@pdmnet.net<mailto:just...@pdmnet.net>> wrote: Hi, Does anyone know of any cheap consumer level UPS’s that can be monitored via SNMP over ethernet? Something non-rack mountable and that doesn’t require external batteries? Everything I find wants to be monitored through USB with proprietary programs like Powerchute, etc… Thanks, Justin
Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?
How do they handle say 0 deg F? Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Mar 27, 2018, at 5:29 PM, SmarterBroadband <li...@sbb.net> wrote: > > OK first this UPS does NOT SNMP. > > However that said the APC BG500 (APC Back-UPS Pro 500) with Lithium Ion > batteries is a nice little unit that comes with built in ethernet. It does > have email alerting which you could use to send Text alerts to your phones. > We like them for micro sites. > > Adam > > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Justin Marshall > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 10:47 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS? > > Hi, > > Does anyone know of any cheap consumer level UPS’s that can be monitored via > SNMP over ethernet? > Something non-rack mountable and that doesn’t require external batteries? > Everything I find wants to be monitored through USB with proprietary programs > like Powerchute, etc… > > Thanks, > Justin >
Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?
OK first this UPS does NOT SNMP. However that said the APC BG500 (APC Back-UPS Pro 500) with Lithium Ion batteries is a nice little unit that comes with built in ethernet. It does have email alerting which you could use to send Text alerts to your phones. We like them for micro sites. Adam From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Justin Marshall Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 10:47 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS? Hi, Does anyone know of any cheap consumer level UPS's that can be monitored via SNMP over ethernet? Something non-rack mountable and that doesn't require external batteries? Everything I find wants to be monitored through USB with proprietary programs like Powerchute, etc. Thanks, Justin
Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?
/system ups print oid On 3/27/2018 1:05 PM, Justin Marshall wrote: You are monitoring a UPS connected to a Mikrotik via USB using SNMP? Are you running the SNMP queries from the Mikrotik itself, or is the APC able to have an IP address you can query directly? Can you give an example model of APC that allows this? Thanks, Justin *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jason Wilson *Sent:* Tuesday, March 27, 2018 1:50 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS? Most APC’s can be monitored over USP through a Mikrotik router (anyone with a USB port). That is what we do for out smaller site, in-fact we usually add external batteries for longer runtime. Jason Jason Wilson Remotely Located Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places. 530-651-1736 Office 530-748-9608 Cell www.remotelylocated.com <http://www.remotelylocated.com> On Mar 27, 2018, at 10:47 AM, Justin Marshall <just...@pdmnet.net <mailto:just...@pdmnet.net>> wrote: Hi, Does anyone know of any cheap consumer level UPS’s that can be monitored via SNMP over ethernet? Something non-rack mountable and that doesn’t require external batteries? Everything I find wants to be monitored through USB with proprietary programs like Powerchute, etc… Thanks, Justin
Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?
I googled Mikrotik + APC, and came across https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:System/UPS I think I see what you’re saying From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Justin Marshall Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 2:06 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS? You are monitoring a UPS connected to a Mikrotik via USB using SNMP? Are you running the SNMP queries from the Mikrotik itself, or is the APC able to have an IP address you can query directly? Can you give an example model of APC that allows this? Thanks, Justin From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason Wilson Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 1:50 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS? Most APC’s can be monitored over USP through a Mikrotik router (anyone with a USB port). That is what we do for out smaller site, in-fact we usually add external batteries for longer runtime. Jason Jason Wilson Remotely Located Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places. 530-651-1736 Office 530-748-9608 Cell www.remotelylocated.com<http://www.remotelylocated.com> On Mar 27, 2018, at 10:47 AM, Justin Marshall <just...@pdmnet.net<mailto:just...@pdmnet.net>> wrote: Hi, Does anyone know of any cheap consumer level UPS’s that can be monitored via SNMP over ethernet? Something non-rack mountable and that doesn’t require external batteries? Everything I find wants to be monitored through USB with proprietary programs like Powerchute, etc… Thanks, Justin
Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?
You are monitoring a UPS connected to a Mikrotik via USB using SNMP? Are you running the SNMP queries from the Mikrotik itself, or is the APC able to have an IP address you can query directly? Can you give an example model of APC that allows this? Thanks, Justin From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason Wilson Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 1:50 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS? Most APC’s can be monitored over USP through a Mikrotik router (anyone with a USB port). That is what we do for out smaller site, in-fact we usually add external batteries for longer runtime. Jason Jason Wilson Remotely Located Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places. 530-651-1736 Office 530-748-9608 Cell www.remotelylocated.com<http://www.remotelylocated.com> On Mar 27, 2018, at 10:47 AM, Justin Marshall <just...@pdmnet.net<mailto:just...@pdmnet.net>> wrote: Hi, Does anyone know of any cheap consumer level UPS’s that can be monitored via SNMP over ethernet? Something non-rack mountable and that doesn’t require external batteries? Everything I find wants to be monitored through USB with proprietary programs like Powerchute, etc… Thanks, Justin
Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?
Most APC’s can be monitored over USP through a Mikrotik router (anyone with a USB port). That is what we do for out smaller site, in-fact we usually add external batteries for longer runtime. Jason Jason Wilson Remotely Located Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places. 530-651-1736 Office 530-748-9608 Cell www.remotelylocated.com > On Mar 27, 2018, at 10:47 AM, Justin Marshallwrote: > > Hi, > > Does anyone know of any cheap consumer level UPS’s that can be monitored via > SNMP over ethernet? > Something non-rack mountable and that doesn’t require external batteries? > Everything I find wants to be monitored through USB with proprietary programs > like Powerchute, etc… > > Thanks, > Justin
[AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?
Hi, Does anyone know of any cheap consumer level UPS's that can be monitored via SNMP over ethernet? Something non-rack mountable and that doesn't require external batteries? Everything I find wants to be monitored through USB with proprietary programs like Powerchute, etc... Thanks, Justin