Re: [AFMUG] How long of a pull can I do?

2016-09-26 Thread Chris Fabien
I think you would have better than 50/50 odds of success. Pulling swivel
would be a good idea. Make a poor man's break away by using 1200 pound mule
tape and cut about halfway through it. We use that trick whatever we have
to pull with a truck.


Re: [AFMUG] How long of a pull can I do?

2016-09-26 Thread Jaime Solorza
I saw an outfit tape wire ropes (2) to the fiber .They used vacuum
trick to get jet and then mule tape to pull in wire rope Fiber
followed.. Two guys at each end with two way radios..

On Sep 26, 2016 4:21 PM, "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've seen 00 electrical wire done that way, but I imagine that's a bit
> less sensitive to stretching than fiber.
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> From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 9/26/2016 6:12:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] How long of a pull can I do?
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> I had a customer pulled coax from their 2way tower through a pipe under
> the parking lot with mule tape tied to the back of their skid loader.  Not
> saying I recommend it, and not sure how much lube they used.
>
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> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
> *Sent:* Monday, September 26, 2016 5:04 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] How long of a pull can I do?
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> Empty 2" conduit by the way, with a string.
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> I could use the string to pull in a mule tape or a rope, and maybe I could
> use a capstan to pull the fiber.  I don't have a tension limited winch,
> and I'm not sure if that could be done by hand.
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> I've done 700' by handand it wasn't easy.
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> -- Original Message ------
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> From: "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
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> To: "Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com>
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> Sent: 9/26/2016 5:59:33 PM
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> Subject: [AFMUG] How long of a pull can I do?
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> Would I be stupid to try and pull a 48 count loose tube fiber 1500' in one
> shot?  There are bends, but no elbows.
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Re: [AFMUG] How long of a pull can I do?

2016-09-26 Thread chuck
Normally you want to have less than 600 lbs of tension on the fiber.  I have 
pulled them with backhoes and pickups and bunches of people.
But a small fiber in a large duct that is straight with lots a lube should be 
easy.  

From: Adam Moffett 
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 4:21 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] How long of a pull can I do?

I've seen 00 electrical wire done that way, but I imagine that's a bit less 
sensitive to stretching than fiber.


-- Original Message --
From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 9/26/2016 6:12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] How long of a pull can I do?

  I had a customer pulled coax from their 2way tower through a pipe under the 
parking lot with mule tape tied to the back of their skid loader.  Not saying I 
recommend it, and not sure how much lube they used.

   

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
  Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 5:04 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] How long of a pull can I do?

   

  Empty 2" conduit by the way, with a string.

   

  I could use the string to pull in a mule tape or a rope, and maybe I could 
use a capstan to pull the fiber.  I don't have a tension limited winch, and I'm 
not sure if that could be done by hand.

   

  I've done 700' by handand it wasn't easy.

   

   

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  From: "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com>

  To: "Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com>

  Sent: 9/26/2016 5:59:33 PM

  Subject: [AFMUG] How long of a pull can I do?

   

Would I be stupid to try and pull a 48 count loose tube fiber 1500' in one 
shot?  There are bends, but no elbows.

 


Re: [AFMUG] How long of a pull can I do?

2016-09-26 Thread Adam Moffett
I've seen 00 electrical wire done that way, but I imagine that's a bit 
less sensitive to stretching than fiber.



-- Original Message --
From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 9/26/2016 6:12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] How long of a pull can I do?

I had a customer pulled coax from their 2way tower through a pipe under 
the parking lot with mule tape tied to the back of their skid loader.  
Not saying I recommend it, and not sure how much lube they used.




From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 5:04 PM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] How long of a pull can I do?



Empty 2" conduit by the way, with a string.



I could use the string to pull in a mule tape or a rope, and maybe I 
could use a capstan to pull the fiber.  I don't have a tension limited 
winch, and I'm not sure if that could be done by hand.




I've done 700' by handand it wasn't easy.





-- Original Message --

From: "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com>

To: "Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com>

Sent: 9/26/2016 5:59:33 PM

Subject: [AFMUG] How long of a pull can I do?



Would I be stupid to try and pull a 48 count loose tube fiber 1500' in 
one shot?  There are bends, but no elbows.





Re: [AFMUG] How long of a pull can I do?

2016-09-26 Thread chuck
Be good to have a pig and blowing machine on the other machine.  

From: ch...@wbmfg.com 
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 4:14 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] How long of a pull can I do?

Easy.  I would suck in a pull string with a vacuum (tie an old bread sack to 
the end).  
Then use the pull string (jet line) to pull in mule tape.

From: Adam Moffett 
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 4:04 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] How long of a pull can I do?

Empty 2" conduit by the way, with a string.

I could use the string to pull in a mule tape or a rope, and maybe I could use 
a capstan to pull the fiber.  I don't have a tension limited winch, and I'm not 
sure if that could be done by hand.

I've done 700' by handand it wasn't easy.


-- Original Message --
From: "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
To: "Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: 9/26/2016 5:59:33 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] How long of a pull can I do?

  Would I be stupid to try and pull a 48 count loose tube fiber 1500' in one 
shot?  There are bends, but no elbows.


Re: [AFMUG] How long of a pull can I do?

2016-09-26 Thread Josh Reynolds
Probably, but I wouldn't risk it. I'd break it up into 500ft shots and use
a swivel loop on the end of the fiber to pull without twisting.

On Sep 26, 2016 4:59 PM, "Adam Moffett"  wrote:

> Would I be stupid to try and pull a 48 count loose tube fiber 1500' in one
> shot?  There are bends, but no elbows.
>
>


Re: [AFMUG] How long of a pull can I do?

2016-09-26 Thread chuck
Easy.  I would suck in a pull string with a vacuum (tie an old bread sack to 
the end).  
Then use the pull string (jet line) to pull in mule tape.

From: Adam Moffett 
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 4:04 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] How long of a pull can I do?

Empty 2" conduit by the way, with a string.

I could use the string to pull in a mule tape or a rope, and maybe I could use 
a capstan to pull the fiber.  I don't have a tension limited winch, and I'm not 
sure if that could be done by hand.

I've done 700' by handand it wasn't easy.


-- Original Message --
From: "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
To: "Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: 9/26/2016 5:59:33 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] How long of a pull can I do?

  Would I be stupid to try and pull a 48 count loose tube fiber 1500' in one 
shot?  There are bends, but no elbows.


Re: [AFMUG] How long of a pull can I do?

2016-09-26 Thread Ken Hohhof
I had a customer pulled coax from their 2way tower through a pipe under the 
parking lot with mule tape tied to the back of their skid loader.  Not saying I 
recommend it, and not sure how much lube they used.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 5:04 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] How long of a pull can I do?

 

Empty 2" conduit by the way, with a string.

 

I could use the string to pull in a mule tape or a rope, and maybe I could use 
a capstan to pull the fiber.  I don't have a tension limited winch, and I'm not 
sure if that could be done by hand.

 

I've done 700' by handand it wasn't easy.

 

 

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From: "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> >

To: "Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >

Sent: 9/26/2016 5:59:33 PM

Subject: [AFMUG] How long of a pull can I do?

 

Would I be stupid to try and pull a 48 count loose tube fiber 1500' in one 
shot?  There are bends, but no elbows.

 



Re: [AFMUG] How long of a pull can I do?

2016-09-26 Thread Adam Moffett

Empty 2" conduit by the way, with a string.

I could use the string to pull in a mule tape or a rope, and maybe I 
could use a capstan to pull the fiber.  I don't have a tension limited 
winch, and I'm not sure if that could be done by hand.


I've done 700' by handand it wasn't easy.


-- Original Message --
From: "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
To: "Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: 9/26/2016 5:59:33 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] How long of a pull can I do?

Would I be stupid to try and pull a 48 count loose tube fiber 1500' in 
one shot?  There are bends, but no elbows.


[AFMUG] How long of a pull can I do?

2016-09-26 Thread Adam Moffett
Would I be stupid to try and pull a 48 count loose tube fiber 1500' in 
one shot?  There are bends, but no elbows.