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A lot of them will be decommissioned as they fail, as it turns out they destroy ecosystems and cause droughts. I watched a Nova episode about salmon genetic variants disappearing because of them. I never even would have thought about that On Feb 14, 2017 5:06 PM, "Seth Mattinen"

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On 2/14/17 14:50, Ken Hohhof wrote: People don’t understand building infrastructure anymore, they think it’s a big deal to build an app. The peak for dam building was the 1960’s. Dams are expected to last 50 years. Do the math. This will not be an isolated case, unless we start maintaining

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. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2017 3:16 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Oroville dam And why hasn't the teaching district been pouring money into a sinking fund for this sort of thing? Retarded. I see it all

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<mailto:af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> <mailto:af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Oroville dam As of this morning they are saying the regular

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in spillway, put some >> I beam piles >> under >> the plates and open it back up. At least until they >> take some >> inches >> off the reservo

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n the turbines to waste more water there too. -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Monday, February 13, 2017 11:28 AM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> <mailto:af@afmug.com <mailt

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, 2017 11:28 AM         To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>         Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Oroville dam         As of this morning they are saying the regular spillway is         supporting         the 100K cfs without further damage.    If that it true, then         there is        

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and open it back up. At least until they take some >> inches >> off the reservoir. I wonder if there is a way they can set the >> angle on >> the turbines to waste more water there too. >> >> -Original Message- From:

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ey take some > inches > off the reservoir. I wonder if there is a way they can set the > angle on > the turbines to waste more water there too. > > -----Original Message- From: Robert Andrews > Sent: Monday, February

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ay, February 13, 2017 11:28 AM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Oroville dam As of this morning they are saying the regular spillway is supporting the 100K cfs without further damage.

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off the reservoir. I wonder if there is a way they can set the >> angle on >> the turbines to waste more water there too. >> >> -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews >> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2017 11:28 AM >> To: af@afmug.c

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r. I wonder if there is a way they can set the angle on the turbines to waste more water there too. -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Monday, February 13, 2017 11:28 AM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

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There was a discussion about this 10 years ago. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/02/13/officials-were-warned-the-oroville-dam-emergency-spillway-wasnt-safe-they-didnt-listen/?utm_term=.6e5238eb1b88) bp On 2/13/2017 8:11 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

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On 2/13/17 11:49, Jason Wilson wrote: There are no Dams downstream. The Feather empties to the Sacramento River. There are a number a weirs on the Sacramento that have been opened to the Bypass (land designated and designed to flood, Farm land, Rice Paddies) to absorb additional flow that we

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back up. At least until they take some inches >>> off the reservoir. I wonder if there is a way they can set the angle on >>> the turbines to waste more water there too. >>> >>> -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews >>> Sent: Monday, February 13,

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To bad it's water and not beer. I could take care of problem myself. Chuck McCown wrote: Good use for aging nukes. *From:* Josh Reynolds *Sent:* Monday, February 13, 2017 11:38 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - Oroville dam O/T Physics question: What kind of energy would

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Sent: Monday, February 13, 2017 12:30 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Oroville dam On 2/13/2017 10:30 AM, Bill Prince wrote: I heard a reporter saying that the water going over that spillway was doing 100,000 cubic feet per second. I have a really hard time visualizing that amount

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Here's a youtube video of Gavins Point releasing 160,000 cubic feet per second. They later had it running at nearly 200,000 cubic feet per second. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N-22IVjn0M On 2/13/2017 1:30 PM, Sam Morris wrote: On 2/13/2017 10:30 AM, Bill Prince wrote: I heard a

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On 2/13/2017 10:30 AM, Bill Prince wrote: I heard a reporter saying that the water going over that spillway was doing 100,000 cubic feet per second. I have a really hard time visualizing that amount of water. Could also have been a mis-quote by the reporter... In 2011 when the Army Corps of

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back up. At least until they take some inches >> off the reservoir. I wonder if there is a way they can set the angle on >> the turbines to waste more water there too. >> >> -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews >> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2017 11:28 AM

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i.e Trump... I wanna be a "rainmaker" ? On 02/13/2017 10:48 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Good use for aging nukes. *From:* Josh Reynolds *Sent:* Monday, February 13, 2017 11:38 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - Oroville dam O/T Physics question: What kind of en

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there too. -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Monday, February 13, 2017 11:28 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Oroville dam As of this morning they are saying the regular spillway is supporting the 100K cfs without further damage.If that it true

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Good use for aging nukes. From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Monday, February 13, 2017 11:38 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Oroville dam O/T Physics question: What kind of energy would be required to cause evaporation of some of the water? Would this be possible? On Feb 13, 2017 12

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;> >> -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews >> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2017 11:28 AM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Oroville dam >> >> As of this morning they are saying the regular spillway is supporting >> the 100K

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sage- From: Robert Andrews > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2017 11:28 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Oroville dam > > As of this morning they are saying the regular spillway is supporting > the 100K cfs without further damage.If that it true, then there is &g

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on the turbines to waste more water there too. -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Monday, February 13, 2017 11:28 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Oroville dam As of this morning they are saying the regular spillway is supporting the 100K cfs without further damage

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As of this morning they are saying the regular spillway is supporting the 100K cfs without further damage.If that it true, then there is the ability to deal with what's happening over the next couple of weeks, which looks like 4-5 sequential storms. We got a 4-5 day break in weather this

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My daughter went to Berklee for a year, it’s a highly regarded music school. Oh wait, spelled different. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, February 13, 2017 11:04 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Oroville dam Hey, Berkeley grads

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t time since the dam was built in 1968. The amount flowing into the lake from recent rains is >100,000 cfs, and it has to go somewhere. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Monday, February 13, 2017 10:31 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG

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>> *Sent:* Monday, February 13, 2017 10:31 AM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - Oroville dam >> >> >> >> I heard a reporter saying that the water going over that spillway was >> doing 100,000 cubic feet per second. I have a really ha

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bruary 13, 2017 10:31 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - Oroville dam > > > > I heard a reporter saying that the water going over that spillway was > doing 100,000 cubic feet per second. I have a really hard time visualizing > that amount of water. Could al

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100,000cfs is correct. That spillway will support 250,000cfs, but the Feather River channel will only support about 216,000cfs. It has been 10 years since the Channel has been stressed to this point, last time there were levee breaches. Their hope is to drawdown the reservoir 50 feet below the

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has to go somewhere. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Monday, February 13, 2017 10:31 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Oroville dam I heard a reporter saying that the water going over that spillway was doing 100,000 cubic feet per second. I h

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it sounds like more than it is, a football field with 1 foot of water on it is 57,000 cubic feet still alot On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Bill Prince wrote: > I heard a reporter saying that the water going over that spillway was > doing 100,000 cubic feet per second. I

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I heard a reporter saying that the water going over that spillway was doing 100,000 cubic feet per second. I have a really hard time visualizing that amount of water. Could also have been a mis-quote by the reporter... bp On 2/13/2017 8:11 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

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remember when that tunnel collapsed under the chicago river they dropped everything in that hole, refrigerators, mattresses, garbage, everything. this repair was supposed to have been made 3 years ago i understand some infrastructure repairs get delayed, it happens but probably best to go ahead

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So the "good news" is they're going to drop bags of rocks from helicopters? I hope my good news never involves helicopters dropping rocks.