Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?

2016-01-22 Thread Rory Conaway 
This will be interesting.  Their model is major cities instead of rural.  From 
the article, it looks like a combination of mesh and some proprietary indoor 
wireless router.  I would really like to see their business plan.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:30 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?


You know these folks?
On Jan 22, 2016 6:38 AM, "Gino Villarini" 
<ginovi...@gmail.com<mailto:ginovi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
http://variety.com/2016/digital/news/aereo-founder-wireless-internet-access-startup-starry-project-decibel-1201685350/

Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?

2016-01-22 Thread Josh Reynolds 
*sits back and grabs a scotch and a bucket of popcorn*

On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 9:21 AM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
> This will be interesting.  Their model is major cities instead of rural.
> From the article, it looks like a combination of mesh and some proprietary
> indoor wireless router.  I would really like to see their business plan.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:30 AM
> To: Animal Farm
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?
>
>
>
> You know these folks?
>
> On Jan 22, 2016 6:38 AM, "Gino Villarini" <ginovi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> http://variety.com/2016/digital/news/aereo-founder-wireless-internet-access-startup-starry-project-decibel-1201685350/

Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?

2016-01-22 Thread Rory Conaway 
Wow, these guys simply don’t think of the Capex involved.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 11:50 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?

Starry?  Maybe they can call it WinStarry?

http://www.wired.com/1999/12/winstar/


From: Rory Conaway<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 12:40 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?

Maybe the good part is that someone will be making new 38GHz equipment.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 11:33 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>; af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?

the only way I see this working is if they backup that 38 ghz with 5 ghz or 3.5 
ghz
Sent from Outlook Mobile<https://aka.ms/qtex0l>


On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 9:30 AM -0800, "Rory Conaway" 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:

When we were upgrading for our deployment, the biggest problem is getting 
"hundreds of Megabytes" to the APs.



Rory



-Original Message-

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson

Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:28 AM

To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?



Wow.



"Hey, these radio thingies do hundreds of megabits, why isn't anyone starting 
an internet company? I've got an idea, I will start an internet company!"



Reminds me of about 100 different companies and people starting WISPs, Lol!



Worked for us to some degree or other, I guess we'll see if they can do it in 
today's urban market.





-Original Message-

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Tyler

Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:44 AM

To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?



Michael: "I must have put a decimal point in the wrong place or something. 
Shit, I always do that. I always mess up some mundane detail.:

Peter: "Oh! Well, this is not a mundane detail, Michael!"



--

Christopher Tyler

MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE

Total Highspeed Internet Services

417.851.1107



- Original Message -

From: "Faisal Imtiaz"

To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>

Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 9:41:26 AM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?



FCC app says 38ghz, the reports are not know to be able to do the math and 
count the zeros correctly !



It's only a decimal point :)



Faisal Imtiaz

Snappy Internet & Telecom

7266 SW 48 Street

Miami, FL 33155

Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232



Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: 
supp...@snappytelecom.net<mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net>



- Original Message -

> From: "Ken Hohhof"

> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>

> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:36:47 AM

> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?



> So how are they using 3.8 GHz?  Or is that a mistake in the article

> and they mean 38 GHz?

>

>

> -----Original Message-

> From: Josh Reynolds

> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 9:22 AM

> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>

> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?

>

> *sits back and grabs a scotch and a bucket of popcorn*

>

> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 9:21 AM, Rory Conaway

> wrote:

>> This will be interesting.  Their model is major cities instead of rural.

>> From the article, it looks like a combination of mesh and some

>> proprietary indoor wireless router.  I would really like to see their 
>> business plan.

>>

>>

>>

>> Rory

>>

>>

>>

>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza

>> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:30 AM

>> To: Animal Farm

>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?

>>

>>

>>

>> You know these folks?

>>

>> On Jan 22, 2016 6:38 AM, "Gino Villarini"  wrote:

>>

> > http://variety.com/2016/digital/news/aereo-founder-wireless-internet

> > -access-startup-starry-project-decibel-1201685350/

Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?

2016-01-22 Thread Gino Villarini 
the only way I see this working is if they backup that 38 ghz with 5 ghz or 3.5 
ghz 

Sent from Outlook Mobile




On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 9:30 AM -0800, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> 
wrote:










When we were upgrading for our deployment, the biggest problem is getting 
"hundreds of Megabytes" to the APs.

Rory

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:28 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?

Wow.

"Hey, these radio thingies do hundreds of megabits, why isn't anyone starting 
an internet company? I've got an idea, I will start an internet company!"

Reminds me of about 100 different companies and people starting WISPs, Lol!

Worked for us to some degree or other, I guess we'll see if they can do it in 
today's urban market.


-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Tyler
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:44 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?

Michael: "I must have put a decimal point in the wrong place or something. 
Shit, I always do that. I always mess up some mundane detail.:
Peter: "Oh! Well, this is not a mundane detail, Michael!"

--
Christopher Tyler
MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
Total Highspeed Internet Services
417.851.1107

- Original Message -
From: "Faisal Imtiaz" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 9:41:26 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?

FCC app says 38ghz, the reports are not know to be able to do the math and 
count the zeros correctly !

It's only a decimal point :)

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

- Original Message -
> From: "Ken Hohhof" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:36:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?

> So how are they using 3.8 GHz?  Or is that a mistake in the article 
> and they mean 38 GHz?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: Josh Reynolds
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 9:22 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?
> 
> *sits back and grabs a scotch and a bucket of popcorn*
> 
> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 9:21 AM, Rory Conaway 
> wrote:
>> This will be interesting.  Their model is major cities instead of rural.
>> From the article, it looks like a combination of mesh and some 
>> proprietary indoor wireless router.  I would really like to see their 
>> business plan.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
>> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:30 AM
>> To: Animal Farm
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?
>>
>>
>>
>> You know these folks?
>>
>> On Jan 22, 2016 6:38 AM, "Gino Villarini"  wrote:
>>
> > http://variety.com/2016/digital/news/aereo-founder-wireless-internet
> > -access-startup-starry-project-decibel-1201685350/

Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?

2016-01-22 Thread Ken Hohhof 
Starry?  Maybe they can call it WinStarry?

http://www.wired.com/1999/12/winstar/


From: Rory Conaway 
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 12:40 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?

Maybe the good part is that someone will be making new 38GHz equipment.

 

Rory

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 11:33 AM
To: af@afmug.com; af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?

 

the only way I see this working is if they backup that 38 ghz with 5 ghz or 3.5 
ghz 

Sent from Outlook Mobile

 





On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 9:30 AM -0800, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> 
wrote:

When we were upgrading for our deployment, the biggest problem is getting 
"hundreds of Megabytes" to the APs. Rory -Original Message-From: Af 
[mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling JacobsonSent: Friday, 
January 22, 2016 10:28 AMTo: af@afmug.comSubject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO 
starting a wisp? Wow. "Hey, these radio thingies do hundreds of megabits, why 
isn't anyone starting an internet company? I've got an idea, I will start an 
internet company!" Reminds me of about 100 different companies and people 
starting WISPs, Lol! Worked for us to some degree or other, I guess we'll see 
if they can do it in today's urban market.  -Original Message-From: Af 
[mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Christopher TylerSent: Friday, 
January 22, 2016 8:44 AMTo: af@afmug.comSubject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO 
starting a wisp? Michael: "I must have put a decimal point in the wrong place 
or something. Shit, I always do that. I always mess up some mundane 
detail.:Peter: "Oh! Well, this is not a mundane detail, Michael!" --Christopher 
TylerMTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWETotal Highspeed Internet Services417.851.1107 
- Original Message -From: "Faisal Imtiaz" To: af@afmug.comSent: Friday, 
January 22, 2016 9:41:26 AMSubject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp? 
FCC app says 38ghz, the reports are not know to be able to do the math and 
count the zeros correctly ! It's only a decimal point :) Faisal ImtiazSnappy 
Internet & Telecom7266 SW 48 StreetMiami, FL 33155Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 
Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net - 
Original Message -> From: "Ken Hohhof" > To: af@afmug.com> Sent: Friday, 
January 22, 2016 10:36:47 AM> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a 
wisp? > So how are they using 3.8 GHz?  Or is that a mistake in the article > 
and they mean 38 GHz?> > > -Original Message-> From: Josh Reynolds> 
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 9:22 AM> To: af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 
ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?> > *sits back and grabs a scotch and a bucket of 
popcorn*> > On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 9:21 AM, Rory Conaway > wrote:>> This will 
be interesting.  Their model is major cities instead of rural.>> From the 
article, it looks like a combination of mesh and some >> proprietary indoor 
wireless router.  I would really like to see their business plan.>>>>>>>> 
Rory>>>>>>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime 
Solorza>> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:30 AM>> To: Animal Farm>> Subject: 
Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?>>>>>>>> You know these folks?>>>> On 
Jan 22, 2016 6:38 AM, "Gino Villarini"  wrote:>>> > 
http://variety.com/2016/digital/news/aereo-founder-wireless-internet> > 
-access-startup-starry-project-decibel-1201685350/

Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?

2016-01-22 Thread Rory Conaway 
Maybe the good part is that someone will be making new 38GHz equipment.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 11:33 AM
To: af@afmug.com; af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?

the only way I see this working is if they backup that 38 ghz with 5 ghz or 3.5 
ghz
Sent from Outlook Mobile<https://aka.ms/qtex0l>



On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 9:30 AM -0800, "Rory Conaway" 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:

When we were upgrading for our deployment, the biggest problem is getting 
"hundreds of Megabytes" to the APs.



Rory



-Original Message-

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson

Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:28 AM

To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?



Wow.



"Hey, these radio thingies do hundreds of megabits, why isn't anyone starting 
an internet company? I've got an idea, I will start an internet company!"



Reminds me of about 100 different companies and people starting WISPs, Lol!



Worked for us to some degree or other, I guess we'll see if they can do it in 
today's urban market.





-Original Message-

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Tyler

Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:44 AM

To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?



Michael: "I must have put a decimal point in the wrong place or something. 
Shit, I always do that. I always mess up some mundane detail.:

Peter: "Oh! Well, this is not a mundane detail, Michael!"



--

Christopher Tyler

MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE

Total Highspeed Internet Services

417.851.1107



- Original Message -

From: "Faisal Imtiaz"

To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>

Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 9:41:26 AM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?



FCC app says 38ghz, the reports are not know to be able to do the math and 
count the zeros correctly !



It's only a decimal point :)



Faisal Imtiaz

Snappy Internet & Telecom

7266 SW 48 Street

Miami, FL 33155

Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232



Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: 
supp...@snappytelecom.net<mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net>



- Original Message -

> From: "Ken Hohhof"

> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>

> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:36:47 AM

> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?



> So how are they using 3.8 GHz?  Or is that a mistake in the article

> and they mean 38 GHz?

>

>

> -Original Message-----

> From: Josh Reynolds

> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 9:22 AM

> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>

> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?

>

> *sits back and grabs a scotch and a bucket of popcorn*

>

> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 9:21 AM, Rory Conaway

> wrote:

>> This will be interesting.  Their model is major cities instead of rural.

>> From the article, it looks like a combination of mesh and some

>> proprietary indoor wireless router.  I would really like to see their 
>> business plan.

>>

>>

>>

>> Rory

>>

>>

>>

>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza

>> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:30 AM

>> To: Animal Farm

>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?

>>

>>

>>

>> You know these folks?

>>

>> On Jan 22, 2016 6:38 AM, "Gino Villarini"  wrote:

>>

> > http://variety.com/2016/digital/news/aereo-founder-wireless-internet

> > -access-startup-starry-project-decibel-1201685350/

Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?

2016-01-22 Thread Rory Conaway 
Is there satellite spectrum at 3.8GHz they could tap into?

Rory

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:37 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?

So how are they using 3.8 GHz?  Or is that a mistake in the article and they 
mean 38 GHz?


-Original Message- 
From: Josh Reynolds
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 9:22 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?

*sits back and grabs a scotch and a bucket of popcorn*

On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 9:21 AM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> 
wrote:
> This will be interesting.  Their model is major cities instead of rural.
> From the article, it looks like a combination of mesh and some proprietary
> indoor wireless router.  I would really like to see their business plan.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:30 AM
> To: Animal Farm
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?
>
>
>
> You know these folks?
>
> On Jan 22, 2016 6:38 AM, "Gino Villarini" <ginovi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> http://variety.com/2016/digital/news/aereo-founder-wireless-internet-access-startup-starry-project-decibel-1201685350/
>

Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?

2016-01-22 Thread Jaime Solorza 
ha  only a decimal...starry?   as in a constellation type set up..

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 8:41 AM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
wrote:

> FCC app says 38ghz, the reports are not know to be able to do the math and
> count the zeros correctly !
>
> It's only a decimal point :)
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> - Original Message -
> > From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
> > To: af@afmug.com
> > Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:36:47 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?
>
> > So how are they using 3.8 GHz?  Or is that a mistake in the article and
> they
> > mean 38 GHz?
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-----
> > From: Josh Reynolds
> > Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 9:22 AM
> > To: af@afmug.com
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?
> >
> > *sits back and grabs a scotch and a bucket of popcorn*
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 9:21 AM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
> > wrote:
> >> This will be interesting.  Their model is major cities instead of rural.
> >> From the article, it looks like a combination of mesh and some
> proprietary
> >> indoor wireless router.  I would really like to see their business plan.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Rory
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
> >> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:30 AM
> >> To: Animal Farm
> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> You know these folks?
> >>
> >> On Jan 22, 2016 6:38 AM, "Gino Villarini" <ginovi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> > >
> http://variety.com/2016/digital/news/aereo-founder-wireless-internet-access-startup-starry-project-decibel-1201685350/
>

[AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?

2016-01-22 Thread Gino Villarini 
http://variety.com/2016/digital/news/aereo-founder-wireless-internet-access-startup-starry-project-decibel-1201685350/

Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?

2016-01-22 Thread Jaime Solorza 
You know these folks?
On Jan 22, 2016 6:38 AM, "Gino Villarini"  wrote:

>
> http://variety.com/2016/digital/news/aereo-founder-wireless-internet-access-startup-starry-project-decibel-1201685350/

Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?

2016-01-22 Thread Rory Conaway 
Then their plans is doomed to failure from the start.  Many people have been 
seduced by the 38GHz band, Vivint for one.  Their deployment has turned out to 
be a financial disaster.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:46 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?

ha  only a decimal...starry?   as in a constellation type set up..

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 8:41 AM, Faisal Imtiaz 
<fai...@snappytelecom.net<mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>> wrote:
FCC app says 38ghz, the reports are not know to be able to do the math and 
count the zeros correctly !

It's only a decimal point :)

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232<tel:305%20663%205518%20x%20232>

Help-desk: (305)663-5518<tel:%28305%29663-5518> Option 2 or Email: 
supp...@snappytelecom.net<mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net>

- Original Message -
> From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com<mailto:af...@kwisp.com>>
> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:36:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?

> So how are they using 3.8 GHz?  Or is that a mistake in the article and they
> mean 38 GHz?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Josh Reynolds
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 9:22 AM
> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?
>
> *sits back and grabs a scotch and a bucket of popcorn*
>
> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 9:21 AM, Rory Conaway 
> <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
> wrote:
>> This will be interesting.  Their model is major cities instead of rural.
>> From the article, it looks like a combination of mesh and some proprietary
>> indoor wireless router.  I would really like to see their business plan.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On 
>> Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
>> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:30 AM
>> To: Animal Farm
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?
>>
>>
>>
>> You know these folks?
>>
>> On Jan 22, 2016 6:38 AM, "Gino Villarini" 
>> <ginovi...@gmail.com<mailto:ginovi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
> > http://variety.com/2016/digital/news/aereo-founder-wireless-internet-access-startup-starry-project-decibel-1201685350/

Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?

2016-01-22 Thread Eric Kuhnke 
38 GHz PtMP has been a disaster, business plan wise, ever since the days of
the 45 Mbps DS3 capacity Winstar radios and network...  16, 17 years ago?

38 GHz PTP is a totally viable option for use with 2' and 3' size dishes in
a dense urban environment where there's absolutely no hope in hell of
coordinating a new part101 11, 18 or 23 GHz link thanks to existing rooftop
cellular carriers' backhauls. Nothing wrong with doing a 1024QAM 38GHz PTP
provided that you do the rain fade/link budget and reliability calculations
correctly.


On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 8:43 AM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
wrote:

> Then their plans is doomed to failure from the start.  Many people have
> been seduced by the 38GHz band, Vivint for one.  Their deployment has
> turned out to be a financial disaster.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Friday, January 22, 2016 8:46 AM
>
> *To:* Animal Farm
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?
>
>
>
> ha  only a decimal...starry?   as in a constellation type set up..
>
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> Wireless Systems Architect
>
> 915-861-1390
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 8:41 AM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
> wrote:
>
> FCC app says 38ghz, the reports are not know to be able to do the math and
> count the zeros correctly !
>
> It's only a decimal point :)
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> ----- Original Message -
> > From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
> > To: af@afmug.com
> > Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:36:47 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?
>
> > So how are they using 3.8 GHz?  Or is that a mistake in the article and
> they
> > mean 38 GHz?
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Josh Reynolds
> > Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 9:22 AM
> > To: af@afmug.com
>
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?
> >
> > *sits back and grabs a scotch and a bucket of popcorn*
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 9:21 AM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
> > wrote:
> >> This will be interesting.  Their model is major cities instead of rural.
> >> From the article, it looks like a combination of mesh and some
> proprietary
> >> indoor wireless router.  I would really like to see their business plan.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Rory
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
> >> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:30 AM
> >> To: Animal Farm
> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> You know these folks?
> >>
> >> On Jan 22, 2016 6:38 AM, "Gino Villarini" <ginovi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> > >
> http://variety.com/2016/digital/news/aereo-founder-wireless-internet-access-startup-starry-project-decibel-1201685350/
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?

2016-01-22 Thread Rory Conaway 
That and they are manufacturing their own equipment which is another expensive 
move.  Man, I wish I had the money these guys blow on bad business plans.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 9:47 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?

38 GHz PtMP has been a disaster, business plan wise, ever since the days of the 
45 Mbps DS3 capacity Winstar radios and network...  16, 17 years ago?
38 GHz PTP is a totally viable option for use with 2' and 3' size dishes in a 
dense urban environment where there's absolutely no hope in hell of 
coordinating a new part101 11, 18 or 23 GHz link thanks to existing rooftop 
cellular carriers' backhauls. Nothing wrong with doing a 1024QAM 38GHz PTP 
provided that you do the rain fade/link budget and reliability calculations 
correctly.

On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 8:43 AM, Rory Conaway 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
Then their plans is doomed to failure from the start.  Many people have been 
seduced by the 38GHz band, Vivint for one.  Their deployment has turned out to 
be a financial disaster.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:46 AM

To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?

ha  only a decimal...starry?   as in a constellation type set up..

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 8:41 AM, Faisal Imtiaz 
<fai...@snappytelecom.net<mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>> wrote:
FCC app says 38ghz, the reports are not know to be able to do the math and 
count the zeros correctly !

It's only a decimal point :)

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232<tel:305%20663%205518%20x%20232>

Help-desk: (305)663-5518<tel:%28305%29663-5518> Option 2 or Email: 
supp...@snappytelecom.net<mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net>

- Original Message -
> From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com<mailto:af...@kwisp.com>>
> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:36:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?

> So how are they using 3.8 GHz?  Or is that a mistake in the article and they
> mean 38 GHz?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Josh Reynolds
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 9:22 AM
> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?
>
> *sits back and grabs a scotch and a bucket of popcorn*
>
> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 9:21 AM, Rory Conaway 
> <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
> wrote:
>> This will be interesting.  Their model is major cities instead of rural.
>> From the article, it looks like a combination of mesh and some proprietary
>> indoor wireless router.  I would really like to see their business plan.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On 
>> Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
>> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:30 AM
>> To: Animal Farm
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?
>>
>>
>>
>> You know these folks?
>>
>> On Jan 22, 2016 6:38 AM, "Gino Villarini" 
>> <ginovi...@gmail.com<mailto:ginovi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
> > http://variety.com/2016/digital/news/aereo-founder-wireless-internet-access-startup-starry-project-decibel-1201685350/

Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?

2016-01-22 Thread Ken Hohhof 
So how are they using 3.8 GHz?  Or is that a mistake in the article and they 
mean 38 GHz?



-Original Message- 
From: Josh Reynolds

Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 9:22 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?

*sits back and grabs a scotch and a bucket of popcorn*

On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 9:21 AM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> 
wrote:

This will be interesting.  Their model is major cities instead of rural.
From the article, it looks like a combination of mesh and some proprietary
indoor wireless router.  I would really like to see their business plan.



Rory



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:30 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?



You know these folks?

On Jan 22, 2016 6:38 AM, "Gino Villarini" <ginovi...@gmail.com> wrote:

http://variety.com/2016/digital/news/aereo-founder-wireless-internet-access-startup-starry-project-decibel-1201685350/

Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?

2016-01-22 Thread Jaime Solorza 
http://www.cnet.com/news/what-is-project-decibel/

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 8:21 AM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
wrote:

> This will be interesting.  Their model is major cities instead of rural.
> From the article, it looks like a combination of mesh and some proprietary
> indoor wireless router.  I would really like to see their business plan.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Friday, January 22, 2016 7:30 AM
> *To:* Animal Farm
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?
>
>
>
> You know these folks?
>
> On Jan 22, 2016 6:38 AM, "Gino Villarini" <ginovi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> http://variety.com/2016/digital/news/aereo-founder-wireless-internet-access-startup-starry-project-decibel-1201685350/
>

Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?

2016-01-22 Thread Faisal Imtiaz 
FCC app says 38ghz, the reports are not know to be able to do the math and 
count the zeros correctly !

It's only a decimal point :)

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

- Original Message -
> From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:36:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?

> So how are they using 3.8 GHz?  Or is that a mistake in the article and they
> mean 38 GHz?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Josh Reynolds
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 9:22 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?
> 
> *sits back and grabs a scotch and a bucket of popcorn*
> 
> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 9:21 AM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
> wrote:
>> This will be interesting.  Their model is major cities instead of rural.
>> From the article, it looks like a combination of mesh and some proprietary
>> indoor wireless router.  I would really like to see their business plan.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
>> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:30 AM
>> To: Animal Farm
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?
>>
>>
>>
>> You know these folks?
>>
>> On Jan 22, 2016 6:38 AM, "Gino Villarini" <ginovi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
> > http://variety.com/2016/digital/news/aereo-founder-wireless-internet-access-startup-starry-project-decibel-1201685350/

Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?

2016-01-22 Thread Christopher Tyler 
Michael: "I must have put a decimal point in the wrong place or something. 
Shit, I always do that. I always mess up some mundane detail.:
Peter: "Oh! Well, this is not a mundane detail, Michael!"

-- 
Christopher Tyler 
MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE 
Total Highspeed Internet Services 
417.851.1107

- Original Message -
From: "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 9:41:26 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?

FCC app says 38ghz, the reports are not know to be able to do the math and 
count the zeros correctly !

It's only a decimal point :)

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

- Original Message -
> From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:36:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?

> So how are they using 3.8 GHz?  Or is that a mistake in the article and they
> mean 38 GHz?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Josh Reynolds
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 9:22 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?
> 
> *sits back and grabs a scotch and a bucket of popcorn*
> 
> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 9:21 AM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
> wrote:
>> This will be interesting.  Their model is major cities instead of rural.
>> From the article, it looks like a combination of mesh and some proprietary
>> indoor wireless router.  I would really like to see their business plan.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
>> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:30 AM
>> To: Animal Farm
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?
>>
>>
>>
>> You know these folks?
>>
>> On Jan 22, 2016 6:38 AM, "Gino Villarini" <ginovi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
> > http://variety.com/2016/digital/news/aereo-founder-wireless-internet-access-startup-starry-project-decibel-1201685350/

Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?

2016-01-22 Thread Sterling Jacobson 
Wow.

"Hey, these radio thingies do hundreds of megabits, why isn't anyone starting 
an internet company? I've got an idea, I will start an internet company!"

Reminds me of about 100 different companies and people starting WISPs, Lol!

Worked for us to some degree or other, I guess we'll see if they can do it in 
today's urban market.


-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Tyler
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:44 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?

Michael: "I must have put a decimal point in the wrong place or something. 
Shit, I always do that. I always mess up some mundane detail.:
Peter: "Oh! Well, this is not a mundane detail, Michael!"

--
Christopher Tyler
MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
Total Highspeed Internet Services
417.851.1107

- Original Message -
From: "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 9:41:26 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?

FCC app says 38ghz, the reports are not know to be able to do the math and 
count the zeros correctly !

It's only a decimal point :)

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

- Original Message -
> From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:36:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?

> So how are they using 3.8 GHz?  Or is that a mistake in the article 
> and they mean 38 GHz?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Josh Reynolds
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 9:22 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?
> 
> *sits back and grabs a scotch and a bucket of popcorn*
> 
> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 9:21 AM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
> wrote:
>> This will be interesting.  Their model is major cities instead of rural.
>> From the article, it looks like a combination of mesh and some 
>> proprietary indoor wireless router.  I would really like to see their 
>> business plan.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
>> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:30 AM
>> To: Animal Farm
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?
>>
>>
>>
>> You know these folks?
>>
>> On Jan 22, 2016 6:38 AM, "Gino Villarini" <ginovi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
> > http://variety.com/2016/digital/news/aereo-founder-wireless-internet
> > -access-startup-starry-project-decibel-1201685350/

Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?

2016-01-22 Thread Rory Conaway 
When we were upgrading for our deployment, the biggest problem is getting 
"hundreds of Megabytes" to the APs.

Rory

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:28 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?

Wow.

"Hey, these radio thingies do hundreds of megabits, why isn't anyone starting 
an internet company? I've got an idea, I will start an internet company!"

Reminds me of about 100 different companies and people starting WISPs, Lol!

Worked for us to some degree or other, I guess we'll see if they can do it in 
today's urban market.


-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Tyler
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:44 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?

Michael: "I must have put a decimal point in the wrong place or something. 
Shit, I always do that. I always mess up some mundane detail.:
Peter: "Oh! Well, this is not a mundane detail, Michael!"

--
Christopher Tyler
MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
Total Highspeed Internet Services
417.851.1107

- Original Message -
From: "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 9:41:26 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?

FCC app says 38ghz, the reports are not know to be able to do the math and 
count the zeros correctly !

It's only a decimal point :)

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

- Original Message -
> From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:36:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?

> So how are they using 3.8 GHz?  Or is that a mistake in the article 
> and they mean 38 GHz?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Josh Reynolds
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 9:22 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?
> 
> *sits back and grabs a scotch and a bucket of popcorn*
> 
> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 9:21 AM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
> wrote:
>> This will be interesting.  Their model is major cities instead of rural.
>> From the article, it looks like a combination of mesh and some 
>> proprietary indoor wireless router.  I would really like to see their 
>> business plan.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
>> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:30 AM
>> To: Animal Farm
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ex Aereo CEO starting a wisp?
>>
>>
>>
>> You know these folks?
>>
>> On Jan 22, 2016 6:38 AM, "Gino Villarini" <ginovi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
> > http://variety.com/2016/digital/news/aereo-founder-wireless-internet
> > -access-startup-starry-project-decibel-1201685350/