Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: OT: IOS vs Android

[Josh Luthman]

They both have issues.

The iPhone can't figure out how to make a calculator work right or rotate
right - these are major issues from the last few months.  There was also
the bug where you could cause the device to reboot with a specific ESSID.
These devices are NOT new.  They've had 10 years to develop iOS, which was
based on MacOS from what 1992?  How can you publish such ridiculous bugs to
so many people...

I haven't really had any ridiculous issues like that on Android and I've
been using it since maybe 2009?

Just pick one and move on...


Josh Luthman
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On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 7:36 AM, Paul Stewart <p...@paulstewart.org> wrote:

> Having used both Android and IPhones …. iPhones I found more reliable and
> less prone to software issues … neither is perfect but my wife/kids hated
> me when I came home one day with new Samsung’s running Android – in fact
> after three months I ended up breaking cellular contracts and moving them
> back to iPhones.
>
>
>
> Anyone who knows me knows that I’m a fairly big Apple fan – so before you
> think I’m biased (because I probably am personally), then business wise, we
> have 90% iPhones in use, 9% Android, and 1% BB … again, the most reliable
> phones for us is Apple hands down and that’s a lot of phones in use …
>
>
>
> My two cents worth ☺
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Mike Hammett <
> af...@ics-il.net>
> *Reply-To: *<af@afmug.com>
> *Date: *Monday, December 18, 2017 at 7:26 AM
> *To: *<af@afmug.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: OT: IOS vs Android
>
>
>
> I can't imagine any scenario where I would give up Android for iPhone.
>
> Especially an IT person.
>
> Especially a radio person.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
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> *From: *"Jason Wilson" <ja...@remotelylocated.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Monday, December 18, 2017 1:27:41 AM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Fwd: OT: IOS vs Android
>
>
>
> Convince me not to give up my Pixel XL for any version of an iPhone.  All
> of my Computers are MacOS.
>
>
>
> Jason
>
> Jason Wilson
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Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: OT: IOS vs Android

[Timothy Steele]

Sumsung sux not Android if you get Android get a Nexus 5x or newer or a
pixel if you want a real Android due to crap companys like Samsung is why
Google had to start making there own phones

On Mon, Dec 18, 2017, 3:29 PM Jason Wilson <ja...@remotelylocated.com>
wrote:

> Thank you all for your input.  Yes I agree that if you have an android
> make sure it is a pure android device, #saynotosamsung.  I have a decision
> to make and I am stuck between a rock and a hard place.
>
> Thanks Guys.
>
> Jason
> Jason Wilson
> Remotely Located
> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
> 530-651-1736 Office
> 530-748-9608 Cell
> www.remotelylocated.com
>
> On Dec 18, 2017, at 12:26 PM, Doug Hass <hassd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> If I had an Android today, it would be a Pixel. I totally agree that stock
> Android is the way to go.
> El El lun, dic. 18, 2017 a las 12:21 p. m., Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> escribió:
>
>> I agree, I've had Nexus phones for a few years and now have a Pixel XL.
>> It's a great phone - the stock Android devices are a bit of a different
>> animal than the modified ones.
>>
>> On Monday, December 18, 2017, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I am about as much as an anti-apple fanboy as you can get.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sure their products are good, but you must live in the little narrow
>>> space that they allow for you. Too restrictive for me.
>>>
>>>
>>> When people talk about "Android", they are often talking about someone's
>>> modified version of Android, the most prominent one being Samsung. Samsung
>>> phones are a very modified version of Android.
>>>
>>>
>>> We have been using Nexus phones (6P) for a couple of years now. They run
>>> pure Android, and they work very, very well.
>>>
>>>
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/18/2017 4:26 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>>>
>> I can't imagine any scenario where I would give up Android for iPhone.
>>>
>>> Especially an IT person.
>>>
>>> Especially a radio person.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
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>>> --
>>> *From: *"Jason Wilson" <ja...@remotelylocated.com>
>>> <ja...@remotelylocated.com>
>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>> *Sent: *Monday, December 18, 2017 1:27:41 AM
>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Fwd: OT: IOS vs Android
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Convince me not to give up my Pixel XL for any version of an iPhone.
>>> All of my Computers are MacOS.
>>>
>>> Jason
>>> Jason Wilson
>>> Remotely Located
>>> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
>>> 530-651-1736 <%28530%29%20651-1736> Office
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>>> www.remotelylocated.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: OT: IOS vs Android

[Jason Wilson]

Thank you all for your input.  Yes I agree that if you have an android make 
sure it is a pure android device, #saynotosamsung.  I have a decision to make 
and I am stuck between a rock and a hard place.

Thanks Guys.

Jason
Jason Wilson
Remotely Located
Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
530-651-1736 Office
530-748-9608 Cell
www.remotelylocated.com

> On Dec 18, 2017, at 12:26 PM, Doug Hass <hassd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> If I had an Android today, it would be a Pixel. I totally agree that stock 
> Android is the way to go.
> El El lun, dic. 18, 2017 a las 12:21 p. m., Jason McKemie 
> <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com <mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>> 
> escribió:
> I agree, I've had Nexus phones for a few years and now have a Pixel XL. It's 
> a great phone - the stock Android devices are a bit of a different animal 
> than the modified ones. 
> 
> On Monday, December 18, 2017, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> I am about as much as an anti-apple fanboy as you can get. 
> 
> Sure their products are good, but you must live in the little narrow space 
> that they allow for you. Too restrictive for me.
> 
> 
> When people talk about "Android", they are often talking about someone's 
> modified version of Android, the most prominent one being Samsung. Samsung 
> phones are a very modified version of Android. 
> 
> We have been using Nexus phones (6P) for a couple of years now. They run pure 
> Android, and they work very, very well.
> 
> 
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> 
> On 12/18/2017 4:26 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>> I can't imagine any scenario where I would give up Android for iPhone.
>> 
>> Especially an IT person.
>> 
>> Especially a radio person.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>  <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> 
>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> 
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> 
>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>  <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> 
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> 
>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>  <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>> 
>> 
>>  <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>> From: "Jason Wilson" <ja...@remotelylocated.com> 
>> <mailto:ja...@remotelylocated.com>
>> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 1:27:41 AM
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Fwd: OT: IOS vs Android
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Convince me not to give up my Pixel XL for any version of an iPhone.  All of 
>> my Computers are MacOS.
>> 
>> Jason
>> Jason Wilson
>> Remotely Located
>> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
>> 530-651-1736 <tel:%28530%29%20651-1736> Office
>> 530-748-9608 <tel:%28530%29%20748-9608> Cell
>> www.remotelylocated.com <http://www.remotelylocated.com/>
>> 
>> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: OT: IOS vs Android

[Doug Hass]

If I had an Android today, it would be a Pixel. I totally agree that stock
Android is the way to go.
El El lun, dic. 18, 2017 a las 12:21 p. m., Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> escribió:

> I agree, I've had Nexus phones for a few years and now have a Pixel XL.
> It's a great phone - the stock Android devices are a bit of a different
> animal than the modified ones.
>
> On Monday, December 18, 2017, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I am about as much as an anti-apple fanboy as you can get.
>>
>>
>> Sure their products are good, but you must live in the little narrow
>> space that they allow for you. Too restrictive for me.
>>
>>
>> When people talk about "Android", they are often talking about someone's
>> modified version of Android, the most prominent one being Samsung. Samsung
>> phones are a very modified version of Android.
>>
>>
>> We have been using Nexus phones (6P) for a couple of years now. They run
>> pure Android, and they work very, very well.
>>
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>>
>> On 12/18/2017 4:26 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>>
> I can't imagine any scenario where I would give up Android for iPhone.
>>
>> Especially an IT person.
>>
>> Especially a radio person.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>
>>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>> --
>> *From: *"Jason Wilson" <ja...@remotelylocated.com>
>> <ja...@remotelylocated.com>
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Monday, December 18, 2017 1:27:41 AM
>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Fwd: OT: IOS vs Android
>>
>>
>>
>> Convince me not to give up my Pixel XL for any version of an iPhone.  All
>> of my Computers are MacOS.
>>
>> Jason
>> Jason Wilson
>> Remotely Located
>> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
>> 530-651-1736 <%28530%29%20651-1736> Office
>> 530-748-9608 <%28530%29%20748-9608> Cell
>> www.remotelylocated.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: OT: IOS vs Android

[Jason McKemie]

I agree, I've had Nexus phones for a few years and now have a Pixel XL.
It's a great phone - the stock Android devices are a bit of a different
animal than the modified ones.

On Monday, December 18, 2017, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am about as much as an anti-apple fanboy as you can get.
>
>
> Sure their products are good, but you must live in the little narrow space
> that they allow for you. Too restrictive for me.
>
>
> When people talk about "Android", they are often talking about someone's
> modified version of Android, the most prominent one being Samsung. Samsung
> phones are a very modified version of Android.
>
>
> We have been using Nexus phones (6P) for a couple of years now. They run
> pure Android, and they work very, very well.
>
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>
> On 12/18/2017 4:26 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>
> I can't imagine any scenario where I would give up Android for iPhone.
>
> Especially an IT person.
>
> Especially a radio person.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
> *From: *"Jason Wilson" <ja...@remotelylocated.com>
> <ja...@remotelylocated.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Monday, December 18, 2017 1:27:41 AM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Fwd: OT: IOS vs Android
>
>
>
> Convince me not to give up my Pixel XL for any version of an iPhone.  All
> of my Computers are MacOS.
>
> Jason
> Jason Wilson
> Remotely Located
> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
> 530-651-1736 <%28530%29%20651-1736> Office
> 530-748-9608 <%28530%29%20748-9608> Cell
> www.remotelylocated.com
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: OT: IOS vs Android

[Doug Hass]

I was anti-Apple, pro-pure Android (Nexus) phones since I quit using
Blackberry years ago...until last October.  Android no longer had the
stability or feature advantages over iPhone.  Multitasking, multi window
support, local file exploring/storage, to pick a few, are all available on
iOS now where they weren't when I adopted Android.  I no longer need to
root a phone to get tethering, iTunes isn't required for anything anymore,
and all of the Microsoft and Google productivity/utility and other apps
(SSH, Cacti, IP camera management, for the most part) that I use are
available on the iPhone and work just as well there with the same
integration as on my LG and Nexus phones.

To each their own--this is just a Pepsi/Coke/Ford/Chevy kind of debate--but
where I didn't see iOS as an alternative before, I actually prefer it over
Android today and haven't looked back.  The iPhone X has been fantastic.

On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 9:14 AM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am about as much as an anti-apple fanboy as you can get.
>
>
> Sure their products are good, but you must live in the little narrow space
> that they allow for you. Too restrictive for me.
>
>
> When people talk about "Android", they are often talking about someone's
> modified version of Android, the most prominent one being Samsung. Samsung
> phones are a very modified version of Android.
>
>
> We have been using Nexus phones (6P) for a couple of years now. They run
> pure Android, and they work very, very well.
>
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>
> On 12/18/2017 4:26 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>
> I can't imagine any scenario where I would give up Android for iPhone.
>
> Especially an IT person.
>
> Especially a radio person.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
> *From: *"Jason Wilson" <ja...@remotelylocated.com>
> <ja...@remotelylocated.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Monday, December 18, 2017 1:27:41 AM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Fwd: OT: IOS vs Android
>
>
>
> Convince me not to give up my Pixel XL for any version of an iPhone.  All
> of my Computers are MacOS.
>
> Jason
> Jason Wilson
> Remotely Located
> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
> 530-651-1736 <%28530%29%20651-1736> Office
> 530-748-9608 <%28530%29%20748-9608> Cell
> www.remotelylocated.com
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: OT: IOS vs Android

[Bill Prince]

I am about as much as an anti-apple fanboy as you can get.


Sure their products are good, but you must live in the little narrow 
space that they allow for you. Too restrictive for me.



When people talk about "Android", they are often talking about someone's 
modified version of Android, the most prominent one being Samsung. 
Samsung phones are a very modified version of Android.



We have been using Nexus phones (6P) for a couple of years now. They run 
pure Android, and they work very, very well.



bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 12/18/2017 4:26 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

I can't imagine any scenario where I would give up Android for iPhone.

Especially an IT person.

Especially a radio person.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>


<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>

*From: *"Jason Wilson" <ja...@remotelylocated.com>
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Monday, December 18, 2017 1:27:41 AM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] Fwd: OT: IOS vs Android



Convince me not to give up my Pixel XL for any version of an
iPhone.  All of my Computers are MacOS.

Jason
Jason Wilson
Remotely Located
Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
530-651-1736 <tel:%28530%29%20651-1736> Office
530-748-9608 <tel:%28530%29%20748-9608> Cell
www.remotelylocated.com <http://www.remotelylocated.com>

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: OT: IOS vs Android

[Bill Prince]

Do what you want.


bp


On 12/17/2017 11:27 PM, Jason Wilson wrote:



Convince me not to give up my Pixel XL for any version of an
iPhone.  All of my Computers are MacOS.

Jason
Jason Wilson
Remotely Located
Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
530-651-1736  Office
530-748-9608  Cell
www.remotelylocated.com 

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: OT: IOS vs Android

[Eric Muehleisen]

*3. Can I repeat number 1 because it's so goddamn annoying?  I can install
the Google Earth app, but I can't load a KML? *

You certainly can import KMZ's into GE on iPhone. You can also import your
KMZ into Google Maps as well. Look for "My Places".



On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 6:53 AM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I used a Samsung Galaxy S6 for awhile.  As compared to the iPhone I found
> it was less useful as a phone, but more useful as a small computer.
>
> My complaints about the Android:
> 1. The phone app was laggy and sometimes even froze.  I once or twice
> actually had to kill the app and restart it so I could make a phone call.
> Someone informed me that I could download a different app to make cell
> phone calls with, but I don't see why I should have to.  Why didn't the
> vendor ensure that the cell phone functioned well as a cell phone before
> anything else?
> 2. The phone itself was a lot more physically flexible compared to the
> iPhone's rigid aluminum frame.  I bought one of those otter box cases for
> the Samsung, whereas I never had more than a rubber padded cover around the
> iPhone.
> 3.  In general, more likely to have frozen/crashed apps.
>
> My complaints about the iPhone:
> 1. Apple's restrictions on loading external data are frustrating, and
> really limit the usefulness of the phone as a handheld computer.  I believe
> I understand their strategy behind it, but I don't like it.  I'm pretty
> sure with a keyboard and screen attached I could do 75% of my work from a
> Samsung phone.  With iPhone I can do emails and calendars, and work with
> Google Docs or other approved cloud based data.
> 2. Non-standard USB connector.  Why was that necessary?
> 3. Can I repeat number 1 because it's so goddamn annoying?  I can install
> the Google Earth app, but I can't load a KML?  BS.  I can't even copy a
> picture or MP3 from the PC to the phone without using iTunes?  FU Apple.
>
> I'm still using iPhone because I have bought apps in the Apple Store that
> I'd be annoyed about re-purchasing, and I first and foremost need the phone
> to be a phone.  I have a laptop for doing real work.
>
> As far as Apple bias, I have used Macs before at work and it was not bad
> at all.  OSX was useful and reliable, and I actually liked having the Unix
> tools available.  I haven't used one daily in years, and I wouldn't buy one
> for myself mostly because in my job there are Windows specific applications
> that I need, and it always seemed like Macs were overpriced.  I'm not
> paying extra just to have a prettier computer.and I can run BSD or
> Linux to get all the Unix tools I want.
>
> -Adam
>
>
> ------ Original Message --
> From: "Jason Wilson" <ja...@remotelylocated.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 12/18/2017 2:27:41 AM
> Subject: [AFMUG] Fwd: OT: IOS vs Android
>
>
>
> Convince me not to give up my Pixel XL for any version of an iPhone.  All
> of my Computers are MacOS.
>
> Jason
> Jason Wilson
> Remotely Located
> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
> 530-651-1736 <(530)%20651-1736> Office
> 530-748-9608 <(530)%20748-9608> Cell
> www.remotelylocated.com
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: OT: IOS vs Android

[Jaime Solorza]

Doesn't match your shoes or ensemble

Jaime Solorza

On Dec 18, 2017 6:08 AM, "Paul Stewart" <p...@paulstewart.org> wrote:

> Valid points and well said …. The one thing I’ll mention about iTunes is
> that it’s not needed if you utilize more of the Mac ecosystem.  I’ve never
> been a fan of it neither and I’m a huge Apple fan in general – when I ran
> Windows day to day it was seriously  a major pain as you mention – no
> question there ….
>
>
>
> When you are running their iCloud, Mac computers etc then iTunes if only
> useful to actually purchase music/movies etc … other than that it’s not
> needed and that’s one thing I really like ☺
>
>
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> *From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Adam Moffett <
> dmmoff...@gmail.com>
> *Reply-To: *<af@afmug.com>
> *Date: *Monday, December 18, 2017 at 7:53 AM
> *To: *<af@afmug.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: OT: IOS vs Android
>
>
>
> I used a Samsung Galaxy S6 for awhile.  As compared to the iPhone I found
> it was less useful as a phone, but more useful as a small computer.
>
>
>
> My complaints about the Android:
>
> 1. The phone app was laggy and sometimes even froze.  I once or twice
> actually had to kill the app and restart it so I could make a phone call.
> Someone informed me that I could download a different app to make cell
> phone calls with, but I don't see why I should have to.  Why didn't the
> vendor ensure that the cell phone functioned well as a cell phone before
> anything else?
>
> 2. The phone itself was a lot more physically flexible compared to the
> iPhone's rigid aluminum frame.  I bought one of those otter box cases for
> the Samsung, whereas I never had more than a rubber padded cover around the
> iPhone.
>
> 3.  In general, more likely to have frozen/crashed apps.
>
>
>
> My complaints about the iPhone:
>
> 1. Apple's restrictions on loading external data are frustrating, and
> really limit the usefulness of the phone as a handheld computer.  I believe
> I understand their strategy behind it, but I don't like it.  I'm pretty
> sure with a keyboard and screen attached I could do 75% of my work from a
> Samsung phone.  With iPhone I can do emails and calendars, and work with
> Google Docs or other approved cloud based data.
>
> 2. Non-standard USB connector.  Why was that necessary?
>
> 3. Can I repeat number 1 because it's so goddamn annoying?  I can install
> the Google Earth app, but I can't load a KML?  BS.  I can't even copy a
> picture or MP3 from the PC to the phone without using iTunes?  FU Apple.
>
>
>
> I'm still using iPhone because I have bought apps in the Apple Store that
> I'd be annoyed about re-purchasing, and I first and foremost need the phone
> to be a phone.  I have a laptop for doing real work.
>
>
>
> As far as Apple bias, I have used Macs before at work and it was not bad
> at all.  OSX was useful and reliable, and I actually liked having the Unix
> tools available.  I haven't used one daily in years, and I wouldn't buy one
> for myself mostly because in my job there are Windows specific applications
> that I need, and it always seemed like Macs were overpriced.  I'm not
> paying extra just to have a prettier computer.and I can run BSD or
> Linux to get all the Unix tools I want.
>
>
>
> -Adam
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Original Message --
>
> From: "Jason Wilson" <ja...@remotelylocated.com>
>
> To: af@afmug.com
>
> Sent: 12/18/2017 2:27:41 AM
>
> Subject: [AFMUG] Fwd: OT: IOS vs Android
>
>
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> Convince me not to give up my Pixel XL for any version of an iPhone.  All
> of my Computers are MacOS.
>
>
>
> Jason
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> Jason Wilson
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Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: OT: IOS vs Android

[Paul Stewart]

Valid points and well said …. The one thing I’ll mention about iTunes is that 
it’s not needed if you utilize more of the Mac ecosystem.  I’ve never been a 
fan of it neither and I’m a huge Apple fan in general – when I ran Windows day 
to day it was seriously  a major pain as you mention – no question there ….

 

When you are running their iCloud, Mac computers etc then iTunes if only useful 
to actually purchase music/movies etc … other than that it’s not needed and 
that’s one thing I really like ☺

 

 

 

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
Reply-To: <af@afmug.com>
Date: Monday, December 18, 2017 at 7:53 AM
To: <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: OT: IOS vs Android

 

I used a Samsung Galaxy S6 for awhile.  As compared to the iPhone I found it 
was less useful as a phone, but more useful as a small computer.

 

My complaints about the Android:  

1. The phone app was laggy and sometimes even froze.  I once or twice actually 
had to kill the app and restart it so I could make a phone call.  Someone 
informed me that I could download a different app to make cell phone calls 
with, but I don't see why I should have to.  Why didn't the vendor ensure that 
the cell phone functioned well as a cell phone before anything else? 

2. The phone itself was a lot more physically flexible compared to the iPhone's 
rigid aluminum frame.  I bought one of those otter box cases for the Samsung, 
whereas I never had more than a rubber padded cover around the iPhone.

3.  In general, more likely to have frozen/crashed apps.

 

My complaints about the iPhone:

1. Apple's restrictions on loading external data are frustrating, and really 
limit the usefulness of the phone as a handheld computer.  I believe I 
understand their strategy behind it, but I don't like it.  I'm pretty sure with 
a keyboard and screen attached I could do 75% of my work from a Samsung phone.  
With iPhone I can do emails and calendars, and work with Google Docs or other 
approved cloud based data.  

2. Non-standard USB connector.  Why was that necessary?

3. Can I repeat number 1 because it's so goddamn annoying?  I can install the 
Google Earth app, but I can't load a KML?  BS.  I can't even copy a picture or 
MP3 from the PC to the phone without using iTunes?  FU Apple.

 

I'm still using iPhone because I have bought apps in the Apple Store that I'd 
be annoyed about re-purchasing, and I first and foremost need the phone to be a 
phone.  I have a laptop for doing real work.

 

As far as Apple bias, I have used Macs before at work and it was not bad at 
all.  OSX was useful and reliable, and I actually liked having the Unix tools 
available.  I haven't used one daily in years, and I wouldn't buy one for 
myself mostly because in my job there are Windows specific applications that I 
need, and it always seemed like Macs were overpriced.  I'm not paying extra 
just to have a prettier computer.and I can run BSD or Linux to get all the 
Unix tools I want.

 

-Adam

 

 

-- Original Message --

From: "Jason Wilson" <ja...@remotelylocated.com>

To: af@afmug.com

Sent: 12/18/2017 2:27:41 AM

Subject: [AFMUG] Fwd: OT: IOS vs Android

 



Convince me not to give up my Pixel XL for any version of an iPhone.  All of my 
Computers are MacOS.

 

Jason

Jason Wilson

Remotely Located

Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.

530-651-1736 Office

530-748-9608 Cell

www.remotelylocated.com

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: OT: IOS vs Android

[Adam Moffett]

I used a Samsung Galaxy S6 for awhile.  As compared to the iPhone I 
found it was less useful as a phone, but more useful as a small 
computer.


My complaints about the Android:
1. The phone app was laggy and sometimes even froze.  I once or twice 
actually had to kill the app and restart it so I could make a phone 
call.  Someone informed me that I could download a different app to make 
cell phone calls with, but I don't see why I should have to.  Why didn't 
the vendor ensure that the cell phone functioned well as a cell phone 
before anything else?
2. The phone itself was a lot more physically flexible compared to the 
iPhone's rigid aluminum frame.  I bought one of those otter box cases 
for the Samsung, whereas I never had more than a rubber padded cover 
around the iPhone.

3.  In general, more likely to have frozen/crashed apps.

My complaints about the iPhone:
1. Apple's restrictions on loading external data are frustrating, and 
really limit the usefulness of the phone as a handheld computer.  I 
believe I understand their strategy behind it, but I don't like it.  I'm 
pretty sure with a keyboard and screen attached I could do 75% of my 
work from a Samsung phone.  With iPhone I can do emails and calendars, 
and work with Google Docs or other approved cloud based data.

2. Non-standard USB connector.  Why was that necessary?
3. Can I repeat number 1 because it's so goddamn annoying?  I can 
install the Google Earth app, but I can't load a KML?  BS.  I can't even 
copy a picture or MP3 from the PC to the phone without using iTunes?  FU 
Apple.


I'm still using iPhone because I have bought apps in the Apple Store 
that I'd be annoyed about re-purchasing, and I first and foremost need 
the phone to be a phone.  I have a laptop for doing real work.


As far as Apple bias, I have used Macs before at work and it was not bad 
at all.  OSX was useful and reliable, and I actually liked having the 
Unix tools available.  I haven't used one daily in years, and I wouldn't 
buy one for myself mostly because in my job there are Windows specific 
applications that I need, and it always seemed like Macs were 
overpriced.  I'm not paying extra just to have a prettier 
computer.and I can run BSD or Linux to get all the Unix tools I 
want.


-Adam


-- Original Message --
From: "Jason Wilson" <ja...@remotelylocated.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 12/18/2017 2:27:41 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Fwd: OT: IOS vs Android




Convince me not to give up my Pixel XL for any version of an iPhone.  
All of my Computers are MacOS.


Jason
Jason Wilson
Remotely Located
Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
530-651-1736 <tel:(530)%20651-1736> Office
530-748-9608 <tel:(530)%20748-9608> Cell
www.remotelylocated.com

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: OT: IOS vs Android

[Paul Stewart]

Having used both Android and IPhones …. iPhones I found more reliable and less 
prone to software issues … neither is perfect but my wife/kids hated me when I 
came home one day with new Samsung’s running Android – in fact after three 
months I ended up breaking cellular contracts and moving them back to iPhones.

 

Anyone who knows me knows that I’m a fairly big Apple fan – so before you think 
I’m biased (because I probably am personally), then business wise, we have 90% 
iPhones in use, 9% Android, and 1% BB … again, the most reliable phones for us 
is Apple hands down and that’s a lot of phones in use … 

 

My two cents worth ☺

 

Paul

 

 

 

 

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net>
Reply-To: <af@afmug.com>
Date: Monday, December 18, 2017 at 7:26 AM
To: <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: OT: IOS vs Android

 

I can't imagine any scenario where I would give up Android for iPhone.

Especially an IT person.

Especially a radio person.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP



From: "Jason Wilson" <ja...@remotelylocated.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 1:27:41 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Fwd: OT: IOS vs Android

 

Convince me not to give up my Pixel XL for any version of an iPhone.  All of my 
Computers are MacOS.

 

Jason

Jason Wilson

Remotely Located

Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.

530-651-1736 Office

530-748-9608 Cell

www.remotelylocated.com

 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: OT: IOS vs Android

[Mike Hammett]

I can't imagine any scenario where I would give up Android for iPhone. 

Especially an IT person. 

Especially a radio person. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Jason Wilson" <ja...@remotelylocated.com> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 1:27:41 AM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Fwd: OT: IOS vs Android 









Convince me not to give up my Pixel XL for any version of an iPhone. All of my 
Computers are MacOS. 


Jason 



Jason Wilson 
Remotely Located 
Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places. 
530-651-1736 Office 
530-748-9608 Cell 
www.remotelylocated.com 

[AFMUG] Fwd: OT: IOS vs Android

[Jason Wilson]

Convince me not to give up my Pixel XL for any version of an iPhone.  All
of my Computers are MacOS.

Jason
Jason Wilson
Remotely Located
Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
530-651-1736 <(530)%20651-1736> Office
530-748-9608 <(530)%20748-9608> Cell
www.remotelylocated.com