Re: [AFMUG] FCC USF and 499 Filing

[Mark Radabaugh]

Because you haven’t convinced them not to, or it crosses state lines.

Mark

> On Apr 24, 2018, at 11:20 PM, Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.net> wrote:
> 
> Then why is my upstream provider charging me USF fee on my broadband only 
> connection?
>  
> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 8:57 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC USF and 499 Filing
>  
> Just 477
>  
> The reclassification didn’t change the USF status of information services, 
> and by the same token it’s repeal didn’t change it’s status.
>  
> USF is based on voice service and some interstate data circuits.   
>  
>  
> Mark Radabaugh
> WISPA FCC Committee Chair
> fcc_ch...@wispa.org <mailto:fcc_ch...@wispa.org>
> 419-261-5996
>  
> On Apr 24, 2018, at 9:31 PM, Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.net 
> <mailto:sterl...@avative.net>> wrote:
>  
> Ok, sorry, so I've been extremely busy this year and missed the fact that the 
> FCC once again re-classified us in January 2018 as a Service Provider instead 
> of a Telecommunications Provider. Therefor exempting us from filing 499A/Q 
> and having to pay into the FUSF fund if we are only providing internet, not 
> VoIP/Telephone services.
> 
> Is that correct?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Sterling Jacobson
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 6:47 PM
> To: 'af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>' <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
> Subject: [AFMUG] FCC USF and 499 Filing
> 
> So now I'm digging to this more to make sure I'm on the right track.
> 
> ALL broadband/internet ISP providers are now classified Telecommunications 
> providers and must file FCC 499a or 499q and pay USF if not de-minimus?
> 
> Is this where we all stand now?
> 
>  

Re: [AFMUG] FCC USF and 499 Filing

[Matt Hoppes]

Does your data circuit cross state lines?

Comcast tried to sell me an interstate circuit. I had to nip that on the quote. 

> On Apr 24, 2018, at 23:20, Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.net> wrote:
> 
> Then why is my upstream provider charging me USF fee on my broadband only 
> connection?
>  
> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 8:57 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC USF and 499 Filing
>  
> Just 477
>  
> The reclassification didn’t change the USF status of information services, 
> and by the same token it’s repeal didn’t change it’s status.
>  
> USF is based on voice service and some interstate data circuits.   
>  
>  
> Mark Radabaugh
> WISPA FCC Committee Chair
> fcc_ch...@wispa.org
> 419-261-5996
>  
> On Apr 24, 2018, at 9:31 PM, Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.net> wrote:
>  
> Ok, sorry, so I've been extremely busy this year and missed the fact that the 
> FCC once again re-classified us in January 2018 as a Service Provider instead 
> of a Telecommunications Provider. Therefor exempting us from filing 499A/Q 
> and having to pay into the FUSF fund if we are only providing internet, not 
> VoIP/Telephone services.
> 
> Is that correct?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 6:47 PM
> To: 'af@afmug.com' <af@afmug.com>
> Subject: [AFMUG] FCC USF and 499 Filing
> 
> So now I'm digging to this more to make sure I'm on the right track.
> 
> ALL broadband/internet ISP providers are now classified Telecommunications 
> providers and must file FCC 499a or 499q and pay USF if not de-minimus?
> 
> Is this where we all stand now?
> 
>  

Re: [AFMUG] FCC USF and 499 Filing

[Sterling Jacobson]

Then why is my upstream provider charging me USF fee on my broadband only 
connection?

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 8:57 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC USF and 499 Filing

Just 477

The reclassification didn’t change the USF status of information services, and 
by the same token it’s repeal didn’t change it’s status.

USF is based on voice service and some interstate data circuits.


Mark Radabaugh
WISPA FCC Committee Chair
fcc_ch...@wispa.org<mailto:fcc_ch...@wispa.org>
419-261-5996

On Apr 24, 2018, at 9:31 PM, Sterling Jacobson 
<sterl...@avative.net<mailto:sterl...@avative.net>> wrote:

Ok, sorry, so I've been extremely busy this year and missed the fact that the 
FCC once again re-classified us in January 2018 as a Service Provider instead 
of a Telecommunications Provider. Therefor exempting us from filing 499A/Q and 
having to pay into the FUSF fund if we are only providing internet, not 
VoIP/Telephone services.

Is that correct?

-Original Message-
From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 6:47 PM
To: 'af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>' <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: [AFMUG] FCC USF and 499 Filing

So now I'm digging to this more to make sure I'm on the right track.

ALL broadband/internet ISP providers are now classified Telecommunications 
providers and must file FCC 499a or 499q and pay USF if not de-minimus?

Is this where we all stand now?

Re: [AFMUG] FCC USF and 499 Filing

[Mark Radabaugh]

Just 477

The reclassification didn’t change the USF status of information services, and 
by the same token it’s repeal didn’t change it’s status.

USF is based on voice service and some interstate data circuits.   


Mark Radabaugh
WISPA FCC Committee Chair
fcc_ch...@wispa.org
419-261-5996

> On Apr 24, 2018, at 9:31 PM, Sterling Jacobson  wrote:
> 
> Ok, sorry, so I've been extremely busy this year and missed the fact that the 
> FCC once again re-classified us in January 2018 as a Service Provider instead 
> of a Telecommunications Provider. Therefor exempting us from filing 499A/Q 
> and having to pay into the FUSF fund if we are only providing internet, not 
> VoIP/Telephone services.
> 
> Is that correct?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Af  On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 6:47 PM
> To: 'af@afmug.com' 
> Subject: [AFMUG] FCC USF and 499 Filing
> 
> So now I'm digging to this more to make sure I'm on the right track.
> 
> ALL broadband/internet ISP providers are now classified Telecommunications 
> providers and must file FCC 499a or 499q and pay USF if not de-minimus?
> 
> Is this where we all stand now?
> 

Re: [AFMUG] FCC USF and 499 Filing

[Sterling Jacobson]

Ok, sorry, so I've been extremely busy this year and missed the fact that the 
FCC once again re-classified us in January 2018 as a Service Provider instead 
of a Telecommunications Provider. Therefor exempting us from filing 499A/Q and 
having to pay into the FUSF fund if we are only providing internet, not 
VoIP/Telephone services.

Is that correct?

-Original Message-
From: Af  On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 6:47 PM
To: 'af@afmug.com' 
Subject: [AFMUG] FCC USF and 499 Filing

So now I'm digging to this more to make sure I'm on the right track.

ALL broadband/internet ISP providers are now classified Telecommunications 
providers and must file FCC 499a or 499q and pay USF if not de-minimus?

Is this where we all stand now?