Re: [AFMUG] OSPF - How large can a flat network grow?

2018-06-09 Thread Brough Turner
 > > > > -p > > > > *From: *Af on behalf of Carl Peterson < > cpeter...@portnetworks.com> > *Reply-To: * > *Date: *Friday, June 8, 2018 at 1:52 PM > > *To: * > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OSPF - How large can a flat network grow? > > > >

Re: [AFMUG] OSPF - How large can a flat network grow?

2018-06-08 Thread Paul Stewart
From: Af on behalf of Eric Kuhnke Reply-To: Date: Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 6:06 PM To: Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OSPF - How large can a flat network grow? Also worth mentioning that a lot of OSPF documentation available on the Internet, makes assumptions that were valid in 2002 or so... When a ty

Re: [AFMUG] OSPF - How large can a flat network grow?

2018-06-08 Thread Carl Peterson
> > > > Paul > > > > > > *From: *Af on behalf of Eric Kuhnke < > eric.kuh...@gmail.com> > *Reply-To: * > *Date: *Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 6:06 PM > *To: * > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OSPF - How large can a flat network grow? > > > >

Re: [AFMUG] OSPF - How large can a flat network grow?

2018-06-08 Thread Paul Stewart
large can a flat network grow? Also worth mentioning that a lot of OSPF documentation available on the Internet, makes assumptions that were valid in 2002 or so... When a typical router had a lot less DRAM and CPU. Such as a Cisco 3725/3745 or even something smaller like a 2621

Re: [AFMUG] OSPF - How large can a flat network grow?

2018-06-07 Thread Bill Prince
N was back then. *From:* Gino A. Villarini *Sent:* Thursday, June 07, 2018 5:47 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OSPF - How large can a flat network grow? Our network by all means is flat as all services converge into our core.� We started by using vlans and qinq but later migrated to

Re: [AFMUG] OSPF - How large can a flat network grow?

2018-06-07 Thread Chuck McCown
Yeah, nightmare... From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2018 6:33 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OSPF - How large can a flat network grow? He's talking about having all routers in OSPF area 0, not a truly flat L2 broadcast-domain nightmare. On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 5:15 PM

Re: [AFMUG] OSPF - How large can a flat network grow?

2018-06-07 Thread Eric Kuhnke
even know what a VLAN was back then. > > *From:* Gino A. Villarini > *Sent:* Thursday, June 07, 2018 5:47 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OSPF - How large can a flat network grow? > > Our network by all means is flat as all services converge into our cor

Re: [AFMUG] OSPF - How large can a flat network grow?

2018-06-07 Thread Josh Baird
atching evpn as the next step.. > > From: Af on behalf of Lewis Bergman < > lewis.berg...@gmail.com> > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" > Date: Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 3:09 PM > To: "af@afmug.com" > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OSPF - How large can a flat network grow? >

Re: [AFMUG] OSPF - How large can a flat network grow?

2018-06-07 Thread Chuck McCown
18 at 3:09 PM To: "af@afmug.com" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OSPF - How large can a flat network grow? Gino would probably be your best source for advice as I'll bet he has one of the largest networks of similar construction. I think he went MPLS to deal with a variety of issues he was ha

Re: [AFMUG] OSPF - How large can a flat network grow?

2018-06-07 Thread Gino A. Villarini
eply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Date: Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 3:09 PM To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OSPF - How large can a flat network grow? Gino would probab

Re: [AFMUG] OSPF - How large can a flat network grow?

2018-06-07 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Also worth mentioning that a lot of OSPF documentation available on the Internet, makes assumptions that were valid in 2002 or so... When a typical router had a lot less DRAM and CPU. Such as a Cisco 3725/3745 or even something smaller like a 2621. Probably still true if you're trying to do OSPF

Re: [AFMUG] OSPF - How large can a flat network grow?

2018-06-07 Thread Dennis Burgess
This is a “unanswerable” question. In honesty, you can have 20k routes in OSPF and it be responsive so the routing platform does not have a limit. The number of routers, is another issue, if you have 500 routers all fiber connected and they don’t go up/down much, then no big deal, however, if

Re: [AFMUG] OSPF - How large can a flat network grow?

2018-06-07 Thread Mark Radabaugh
As long as it’s stable you are nowhere near the limits of OSPF as a IGP, and there are a number of fairly simple ways to start to segment the network when you start to reach the limits. OSPF itself is fine but during network instability situations you may run into issues with CPU on some of

Re: [AFMUG] OSPF - How large can a flat network grow?

2018-06-07 Thread Lewis Bergman
Gino would probably be your best source for advice as I'll bet he has one of the largest networks of similar construction. I think he went MPLS to deal with a variety of issues he was having, including OSPF. But maybe Gino can speak up on the issue. Typically, if you didn't want to do anything