From: "Josh Baird" mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 11:47:42 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience
This PTP800 is only capable of running at 40Mhz (ODU-A) so
nke
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 16, 2017 1:36 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience
>>
>> Say that again when you're building pure Ethernet 1, 10 and 100GbE
>> backbone links for an ISP that has its own AS, traffic exchanges a
ent:* Monday, January 16, 2017 1:36 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience
>
> Say that again when you're building pure Ethernet 1, 10 and 100GbE
> backbone links for an ISP that has its own AS, traffic exchanges at
> multiple IXes and spans
No, caring about –48 VDC is kinda like caring about 400HZ ac if you decide to
move from little planes to airlines and large military.
It is the defacto standard for very good reasons.
All the big boys do –48. Always have, always will.
On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 12:26 PM, Robert wrote:
Se
comparing radios
>>
>> From: Af on behalf of Josh Reynolds <
>> j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com"
>> Date: Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 12:56 AM
>> To: "af@afmug.com"
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience
>>
&
, 2017 7:04 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience
To be fair... I am not sure if that would be a good idea...
Considering Bill Clinton found a creative use for the cigar !
Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305
supp...@snappytelecom.net
> From: "Ken Hohhof"
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 2:16:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience
> Give that man a cigar.
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
> Sent: Saturday, January
st
>> money, and may increase tower rent.
>>
>>
>>
>> It’s too easy to focus on just radio cost and max throughput. You are on
>> the right track with your last line. Can it do the job at hand. But you
>> need to look at more than just the max throug
mug.com
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 1:16:27 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience
Give that man a cigar.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 1:06 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experi
Give that man a cigar.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 1:06 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience
How about we just call him a self-promoting huckster. Hucksters are, in a way,
business men, but
.net
> From: "Jon Langeler"
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 2:04:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience
> It's easy to use. Way better than PTP820 as far as having any employee grab
> replacement. Single radio covers the who
>> the right track with your last line. Can it do the job at hand. But you
>> need to look at more than just the max throughput on the spec sheet to
>> determine that.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Beha
t;mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 8:52:02 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience
Sure, but don't claim you're better when you're not. There's nothing wrong with
building a reasonable product for a great price if that's all you claim to
(usually containing an insult) before finishing.
> http://madlibs.shpg.org/trump?ref=webdesignernews.com
> And I thought Bush’s grammar was bad.
> From: Faisal Imtiaz
> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 10:17 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience
://madlibs.shpg.org/trump?ref=webdesignernews.com
And I thought Bush’s grammar was bad.
From: Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 10:17 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience
You just voted to put a self promoting business man to the highest office of
the land..
and you
; Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
> From: "Mike Hammett"
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 8:52:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x expe
the bits/mhz/$ when comparing radios
>
> From: Af on behalf of Josh Reynolds <
> j...@kyneticwifi.com>
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com"
> Date: Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 12:56 AM
> To: "af@afmug.com"
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience
>
&
Bahaha nice
Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.
> On Jan 14, 2017, at 9:44 AM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
>
>> On 1/14/17 5:52 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>> Sure, but don't claim you're better when you're not. There's nothing
>> wrong with building a reasonable product for a great price if that's
On 1/14/17 5:52 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Sure, but don't claim you're better when you're not. There's nothing
wrong with building a reasonable product for a great price if that's all
you claim to be.
Yeah but ARQ is errorless because FEC has "error" in the name.
~Seth
- Original Message -
From: "Ken Hohhof"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 10:44:49 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience
Price
Throughput
System Margin
Latency
Build Quality
Management
Vendor Support
It’s about the tradeoffs, and what
mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 12:56 AM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience
There's an ongoing discussion about this. It seems it has to do with the
hitless ARQ modu
663 5518 x 232
Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
> From: "Chris Gustaf"
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 6:19:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience
> Real usable capacity at Layer 2 Ethernet depends
westix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> ------
> *From: *"Tim Hardy"
> *To: *af@
ch.com> >
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 5:54:53 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience
Post 6 here discusses the use of ARQ rather than FEC.
https://community.ubnt.com/t5/airFiber/AF11x-Capacity/td-p/1737631
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From: Af mailt
nt: Friday, January 13, 2017 5:54:53 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience
Post 6 here discusses the use of ARQ rather than FEC.
https://community.ubnt.com/t5/airFiber/AF11x-Capacity/td-p/1737631
From: Af on behalf of George Skorup
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 6:41:10
Post 6 here discusses the use of ARQ rather than FEC.
https://community.ubnt.com/t5/airFiber/AF11x-Capacity/td-p/1737631
From: Af on behalf of George Skorup
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 6:41:10 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience
-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chris Gustaf
*Sent:* Friday, January 13, 2017 5:20 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience
Real usable capacity at Layer 2 Ethernet depends on several variables
besides the modulation level and the regulatory bandwidth. For 1024
QAM ther
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience
Real usable capacity at Layer 2 Ethernet depends on several variables besides
the modulation level and the regulatory bandwidth. For 1024 QAM there are 10
bits per symbol so theoretically one would expect to get 400 Mbps in a 40 MHz
channel (10 bits
o) the expected
>>> throughput on Af11x is 500meg duplex.
>>>
>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>>>
>>> He
) the expected
>>> throughput on Af11x is 500meg duplex.
>>>
>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <%28305%29%20663-5518>
>>>
>>>
i, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
From: "Josh Baird" < joshba...@gmail.com >
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 10:30:10 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience
ailto:joshba...@gmail.com>>
*To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent: *Friday, January 13, 2017 10:30:10 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience
But if I can get 80mhz channels in both polarities
(running at 56M
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>>
>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
>> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>
>> ---
net & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Josh Baird"
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Friday, Januar
appytelecom.net
> From: "Josh Baird"
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 10:30:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience
> But if I can get 80mhz channels in both polarities (running at 56Mhz/1024QAM
> with this radio), I should be able to
est Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
From: "Josh Baird" < joshba...@gmail.com >
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 11:47:42 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience
This PTP800 is only capable of running at 40Mhz (ODU-A) so it can only do
228M
ook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
> *From: *"Josh Baird"
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, January 12, 2017 11:47:42 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11
January 12, 2017 6:05 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience
>
> Right, if the spectrum is available, they'll be using 2x 80 MHz and getting
> hella throughput.
>
> As far as the AF11's inefficiency? The world may never know. Right,
t; <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
ternet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
- Original Message -
From: "Ken Hohhof"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 6:11:32 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience
Is it OFDM? Overhead? (cyclix prefix, pilot tones, etc.)
From: Af [mailto:af-bou
Is it OFDM? Overhead? (cyclix prefix, pilot tones, etc.)
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 6:05 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience
Right, if the spectrum is available, they'll be using
tt
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
- Original Message -
From: "Mathew Howard"
To: "af"
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 6:00:50 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience
Yeah, but if the spectrum is ava
ebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
> *From: *"Mike Hammett"
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, January 12, 2017 5:17:29 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT A
nk.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
- Original Message -
From: "Mike Hammett"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 5:17:29 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience
What'
Computing Solutions
>
> Midwest Internet Exchange
>
> The Brothers WISP
>
>
>
>
> From: "Jon Langeler"
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 5:14:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience
>
> What's
2017 5:14:47 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience
What's the one way throughout of Mimosa vs AF11x vs IP20 in 40Mhz?
Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.
On Jan 12, 2017, at 5:55 PM, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote:
At 40 MHz and a single pola
> The Brothers WISP
>
>
>
>
> From: "Josh Baird"
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 11:47:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience
>
> This PTP800 is only capable of running at 40Mhz (ODU-A) so it can only do
> 228Mbp
t Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
- Original Message -
From: "Josh Baird"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 11:47:42 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience
This PTP800 is only capable of running at 40Mhz (ODU-A) so it can only do
228Mb
oshba...@gmail.com>
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com"
> Date: Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 3:20 PM
> To: "af@afmug.com"
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience
>
> Need to adjust the license anyways if we are changing out equipment.
>
>
>
>
e: Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 3:20 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience
Need to adjust the license anyways if we are changing out equipment.
Gino Villarini
President
Metro Office Park
m>
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com"
> Date: Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 1:47 PM
> To: "af@afmug.com"
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience
>
> This PTP800 is only capable of running at 40Mhz (ODU-A) so it can only do
> 228Mbps full-duplex. The AF11x sh
anuary 12, 2017 at 1:47 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience
This PTP800 is only capable of running at 40Mhz (ODU-A) so it can only do
228Mbps full-duplex. The AF11x should be able to do much mor
oshba...@gmail.com>
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com"
> Date: Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 9:12 AM
> To: "af@afmug.com"
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience
>
> Good news - thanks for sharing.
>
> Somewhat un-related question:
>
> I hav
af11x
From: Af mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Josh
Baird mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>"
mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 9:12 AM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>&qu
and AF23X
bp
On 1/12/2017 5:07 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
Hey all, just dropping by to share our experience with AF11x, we habe
been beta testing the unit since Sept and for the last 3 months, the
unit has been rock solid.
We are very happy with its performance, just wished it had a SFP p
Good news - thanks for sharing.
Somewhat un-related question:
I have a PTP-800 link using these dishes:
http://www.hol4g.com/AC/product.aspx?number=ANC-VHLP3-11W-RR1&p=237127&sc=0
Do you know if I can re-use these dishes with the AF11x? Do I need
adapters?
Josh
On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 8:07 A
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