Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput

2015-02-17 Thread Ken Hohhof
where it is needed. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 9:23 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput Well it still needs a few constraints At a range of 3 feet I bet we can do better than 12 bits/hz and use 100ghz. I guess i

Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput

2015-02-17 Thread That One Guy
17, 2015 8:23 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput At a distance of 10 miles during a rain storm? *From:* Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, February 16, 2015 6:37 PM *To:* Animal Farm af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG

Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput

2015-02-17 Thread Chuck McCown
At a distance of 10 miles during a rain storm? From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 6:37 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput So the 31ghz and 38ghz links I installed many years ago never passed data and phone calls? I knew I

Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput

2015-02-17 Thread Ken Hohhof
What about Li-Fi? (it has to work, it’s from a TED talk) From: Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 8:23 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput At a distance of 10 miles during a rain storm? From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015

Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput

2015-02-17 Thread Jaime Solorza
...@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, February 16, 2015 6:37 PM *To:* Animal Farm af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput So the 31ghz and 38ghz links I installed many years ago never passed data and phone calls? I knew I was kidding myself. Jaime Solorza On Feb

Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput

2015-02-17 Thread Adam Moffett
...@kwisp.com wrote: What about Li-Fi? (it has to work, it’s from a TED talk) *From:* Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com *Sent:* Tuesday, February 17, 2015 8:23 AM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput

Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput

2015-02-17 Thread Ty Featherling
@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput Well it still needs a few constraints At a range of 3 feet I bet we can do better than 12 bits/hz and use 100ghz. I guess i needed to define better but the gist is of the usable spectrum probably less than 500gbps

Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput

2015-02-17 Thread Eric Kuhnke
"Some will say?" Tell that to all of the highly successful ISPs (most of whom are not stereotypical WISPs, but are 95% fiber and 5% microwave) using 60 GHz for 500 to 700 meter distances, places where it could cost $130,000 for a fiber build.

Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput

2015-02-16 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
And one strand of fiber? Probably not far from the same by the end of the decade. 100Gbps already exists. On 2/16/2015 5:45 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: The entire radio spectrum is infinite in theory as all light, xrays etc are all electromagnetic waves. The “usable” “RF” spectrum depends on

Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput

2015-02-16 Thread Bill Prince
Douglas Adams had the answer years ago. 42 bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 2/16/2015 3:19 PM, That One Guy wrote: Theoretically, based on current bits/hz maximums, and assuming there was a radio capable, and an antenna capable, with no other limitations. What is the maximum throughput of

Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput

2015-02-16 Thread Chuck McCown
The entire radio spectrum is infinite in theory as all light, xrays etc are all electromagnetic waves. The “usable” “RF” spectrum depends on range and rainfall and other factors. While some will say that 60 GHz is usable and THz frequencies are usable and free space optics in IR are

Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput

2015-02-16 Thread TJ Trout
The entire radio spectrum? From dc to daylight? I don't think anyone can answer that question for you On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 3:19 PM, That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: Theoretically, based on current bits/hz maximums, and assuming there was a radio capable, and an antenna capable,

Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput

2015-02-16 Thread Mike Hammett
PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput And one strand of fiber? Probably not far from the same by the end of the decade. 100Gbps already exists. On 2/16/2015 5:45 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: The entire radio spectrum is infinite in theory as all light, xrays etc

Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput

2015-02-16 Thread Mark Radabaugh
I'm guessing you head to infinity on that one. The shortest wavelength is 1.616 x 10^-35 meters or a frequency of 1.8552 x 10^43 Hz. Unfortunately the amount of energy required to create that frequency also results in the creation of a black hole and your transmitter disappears. Mark

Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput

2015-02-16 Thread Jaime Solorza
So the 31ghz and 38ghz links I installed many years ago never passed data and phone calls? I knew I was kidding myself. Jaime Solorza On Feb 16, 2015 4:45 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: The entire radio spectrum is infinite in theory as all light, xrays etc are all

Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput

2015-02-16 Thread Gino Villarini
, February 16, 2015 at 7:50 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput And one strand of fiber? Probably not far from the same by the end of the decade. 100Gbps already exists. On 2/16/2015 5:45 PM, Chuck McCown

Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput

2015-02-16 Thread Chuck McCown
Oh, yeah, photon energy. I forgot about that. So there is an upper limit. From: Mark Radabaugh Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 5:00 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput I'm guessing you head to infinity on that one. The shortest wavelength