Re: [agi] E=mc^2 Morphism Musings... (Intelligence=math*consciousness^2 ?)

2018-09-10 Thread Mark Nuzz via AGI
I'll take jargon salad over buzzword soup any day. On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 3:26 PM Matt Mahoney via AGI wrote: > Recipe for jargon salad. > > Two cups of computer science. > One cup mathematics. > One cup electrical engineering. > One cup neuroscience. > One half cup information theory. > Four

Re: [agi] Re: French startup saying they found AGI, what do you think ?

2018-09-04 Thread Mark Nuzz via AGI
Looks like a scam to me as they seem to be bare bones with content but claim they can build it with $350,000 and 9 months time. Basically asking for money and I don't see really any evidence or papers they are putting forth to support their viewpoint. On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 11:52 AM

Re: [agi] The reality onion...

2018-07-21 Thread Mark Nuzz via AGI
I would think that a far more detailed explanation of this topology should be provided before any productive discussions could take form. On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 10:16 PM, Steve Richfield via AGI < agi@agi.topicbox.com> wrote: > I seems that reality is organized somewhat like an onion... > > In

Re: [agi] New Paper - Temporal Singularity and the Fermi Paradox

2018-06-25 Thread Mark Nuzz via AGI
On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 8:15 PM, Matt Mahoney via AGI wrote: > Recursive self improvement in a closed environment is not possible because > intelligence depends on knowledge and computing power. These can only come > from outside the simulation. > > I generally agree with this. But let's go into

Re: [agi] Lossy Compressed Blockchain As Temporal Memory (still non-mutable)

2018-06-17 Thread Mark Nuzz via AGI
On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 6:32 AM, Ben Goertzel wrote: > > I think that all money spent on marketing at this point is not only a > waste, > > but it is actually worse than doing no marketing, because people hear of > the > > project before it's released, then they get a poor first impression and

Re: [agi] Blockchainifying Conscious Awareness

2018-06-17 Thread Mark Nuzz via AGI
So the moral of the story is that a blockchain is not necessary for that use case, and adds unnecessary constraints... I'm hopeful about the sharding and sidechains but probably not as optimistic as some. On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 1:54 AM, wrote: > They got the data! And they got a "distributed

Re: [agi] Blockchainifying Conscious Awareness

2018-06-17 Thread Mark Nuzz via AGI
On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 1:40 AM, wrote: > Why would anyone want to do that? > > Ans: For model checking on a distributed imagination. > > Just figured I’d throw that out there  > > John > > Sounds like Facebook's data mining practices. -- Artificial

Re: [agi] Lossy Compressed Blockchain As Temporal Memory (still non-mutable)

2018-06-17 Thread Mark Nuzz via AGI
On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 12:51 AM, Mark Nuzz wrote: > > > On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 12:16 AM, Ben Goertzel wrote: > >> > My opinion on those technologies you mention is that, while novel and >> > promising, they are still in an experimental stage. It's a huge mistake >> to >> > assemble a system

Re: [agi] Lossy Compressed Blockchain As Temporal Memory (still non-mutable)

2018-06-16 Thread Mark Nuzz via AGI
On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 9:54 PM, Nanograte Knowledge Technologies via AGI < agi@agi.topicbox.com> wrote: > Stepping back for a moment to be able to see better what is being said. > It's a jumble out there. > > Any computational solution would require a technology stack for every > purpose to be

Re: [agi] Lossy Compressed Blockchain As Temporal Memory (still non-mutable)

2018-06-16 Thread Mark Nuzz via AGI
On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 8:12 PM, Ben Goertzel wrote: > On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 2:41 AM, Matt Mahoney via AGI > wrote: > > No, Stefan Reich and Mark Nuzz are right. Blockchain has nothing to do > > with AGI and doesn't help. > > > > Blockchain is a terrible way to implement a distributed data

Re: [agi] The Singularity Forum

2018-06-14 Thread Mark Nuzz via AGI
The Singularity analogy was never intended to imply infinite power. Rather it represents a point at which understanding and predictability breaks down and becomes impossible. On Jun 14, 2018 3:59 PM, "Matt Mahoney via AGI" wrote: > Vinge: when humans produce superhuman AI then so can it, only

Re: [agi] SingularityNet/AGI Marketing/Adoption Strategy

2018-06-12 Thread Mark Nuzz via AGI
This is hardly spam, and Logan is not a spammer. The topic of AGI business development has been discussed on this list many times. On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 10:46 AM, MP via AGI wrote: > Don’t spam us with marketing nonsense. This is a place to discuss > artificial minds, not selling them! > >

Re: [agi] Most sophisticated software ever written?

2018-05-16 Thread Mark Nuzz via AGI
On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 1:15 PM, A.T. Murray via AGI wrote: > For twenty-five years (since July of 1993) Yours Truly Mentifex here has > been coding an AI Mind, first in REXX on the Commodore Amiga, then in Forth > on a computer from FreePC.com (they gave away 40,000 free