Re: [agi] can someone tell me what before means without saying before in it?

2019-09-29 Thread John Rose
"The graphtropy of a distinction graph, constructed relative to an observer, is therefore considerable as a measure of how much excessive algorithmic information exists in the system of observations modeled by the distinction graph, relative to the observer. Or to put it more simply, the graphtr

Re: [agi] can someone tell me what before means without saying before in it?

2019-09-29 Thread John Rose
On Saturday, September 28, 2019, at 9:26 PM, Ben Goertzel wrote: > making a mathematical version of "Difference and Repetition" in terms of distinction graphs is one of the things on my theory to-do list... https://arxiv.org/abs/1902.00741 Ben, nice paper bravo. We think similar but you're like 1

Re: [agi] can someone tell me what before means without saying before in it?

2019-09-28 Thread Ben Goertzel
a noun you may, > or may not have considered: "unstruct". > > These days I'm thinking a lot about dynamical hierarchies. > > Rob > ____________ > From: Ben Goertzel > Sent: Sunday, 29 September 2019 03:26 > To: AGI > Subject:

Re: [agi] can someone tell me what before means without saying before in it?

2019-09-28 Thread Nanograte Knowledge Technologies
. > > > > ____________ > From: Ben Goertzel > Sent: Saturday, 28 September 2019 15:01 > To: AGI > Subject: Re: [agi] can someone tell me what before means without saying > before in it? > > Aren't we back to Kant here? Time and space

Re: [agi] can someone tell me what before means without saying before in it?

2019-09-28 Thread Ben Goertzel
> unit-measuring, binary instrument and space being defined by the relative > objects in a select, version of relational reality - as humankind knows it. > As such, it would be qualifiable and quantifiable. > > > > ________________ > From: Ben Goertzel >

Re: [agi] can someone tell me what before means without saying before in it?

2019-09-28 Thread Nanograte Knowledge Technologies
Ben Goertzel Sent: Saturday, 28 September 2019 15:01 To: AGI Subject: Re: [agi] can someone tell me what before means without saying before in it? Aren't we back to Kant here? Time and space as fundamental categories, not fully reducible to other things... On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 7:11 PM

Re: [agi] can someone tell me what before means without saying before in it?

2019-09-28 Thread rouncer81
Thanks M&M for that,  especially about the automatic synonym generation, that would work wonders.         You guys all look like youve done more symbolic logic than me,   ive only done comp viz, motor mostly, so ive got some catching up to do. -- Artificia

Re: [agi] can someone tell me what before means without saying before in it?

2019-09-28 Thread Matt Mahoney
Before means not after. After means at a later time. Later means not earlier. Earlier means before. Ultimately every word in the dictionary is defined using other words in the same dictionary. That is what words mean. A language model is a probability distribution over word sequences. Two words ha

Re: [agi] can someone tell me what before means without saying before in it?

2019-09-28 Thread rouncer81
So it is a fundamental instinctual property,  along with the eye and ear + brain diagnostics. Nice to hear from you all. -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/Td59c0c4714ffb511-M56db37b1907dfa1c03b1387f

Re: [agi] can someone tell me what before means without saying before in it?

2019-09-28 Thread Ben Goertzel
Aren't we back to Kant here? Time and space as fundamental categories, not fully reducible to other things... On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 7:11 PM wrote: > > Ive got this feeling, that things are impossible to put. I want to tell my > computer what before means, but I end up just saying before in

Re: [agi] can someone tell me what before means without saying before in it?

2019-09-28 Thread Stefan Reich via AGI
Event 1 happens before event 2 := There is a timeline. Event 1 is at position X in the timeline. Event 2 is at position Y in the timeline. Y is to the right of X. That's one way. Sure, we used other words, but these may happen to mean something to the AI already. We could do it even simpl

[agi] can someone tell me what before means without saying before in it?

2019-09-28 Thread rouncer81
Ive got this feeling, that things are impossible to put.  I want to tell my computer what before means,  but I end up just saying before in the sentence itself.   "before means before." That is bullshit. -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permali