[agi] How These Self-Aware Robots Are Redefining Consciousness:

2019-10-20 Thread keghnfeem
How These Self-Aware Robots Are Redefining Consciousness: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chukkEeGrLM -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T0bac50bd46a02459-M9a5f895c4dc92f4b1c5bb01b Delivery options:

Re: [agi] COMPUTE THIS!!!

2019-10-20 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
Stefan Reich via AGI wrote: > If you write an AI, how will you write it? In a programming language, > yes? So are you not using words to make an AI? QED. Here's your DUNCE cap, now go sit in a corner -- Clowns feed off of funny money; Funny money comes from the FED so NO FED -> NO

Re: [agi] COMPUTE THIS!!!

2019-10-20 Thread immortal . discoveries
As for image frames, you won't often see the same frame again actually, even if you go back in your kitchen and stand where you were exactly. But it is extremely close enough, isn't it :). Same for a nook, it looks like a table most. -- Artificial General

Re: [agi] Re: Working program in Big Snakey (?) language

2019-10-20 Thread Stefan Reich via AGI
Yeah, it's neat. Audio seems OK to me. On Sun, 20 Oct 2019 at 17:39, wrote: > Its madness mate (my work) Ill cherry pick one for you -Its good > programming, but im being a full loser in the audio, so make sure you turn > the sound OFF!! > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzPbl_s-w50=41s > its

[agi] Re: How These Self-Aware Robots Are Redefining Consciousness:

2019-10-20 Thread korrelan
Woa... the first bot in the video (white) is definitely a man in a costume... rest is cool though. :) -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T0bac50bd46a02459-Mca17c178714c753967ecb792 Delivery options:

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2019-10-20 Thread rouncer81
A.G. you sound like you dont like to think actions are language.  they are in the process of doing it, and language is the "potential" of the activity. But without the activity, there would be no language, they are bound together I think at the moment. --

Re: [agi] COMPUTE THIS!!!

2019-10-20 Thread doddy
the brain creates it's own language. On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 10:36 AM James Bowery wrote: > > https://www.cosmosandhistory.org/index.php/journal/article/viewFile/740/1214 > > > On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 6:53 AM wrote: > >> Right now at the moment, Sucks at it does... and I might not be right, >>

Re: [agi] COMPUTE THIS!!!

2019-10-20 Thread rouncer81
J.B. nice find, I think I need to read it. -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T4f01e8a4b34d0e2a-Ma58d0af8eec7bf785437c29d Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription

[agi] Re: How These Self-Aware Robots Are Redefining Consciousness:

2019-10-20 Thread immortal . discoveries
This self-aware visioning is the prediction (translation, entailment, segmentation)you see yourself as someone else and THEN see what would entail. You use past experience to build the future timesteps. -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI

Re: [agi] COMPUTE THIS!!!

2019-10-20 Thread James Bowery
https://www.cosmosandhistory.org/index.php/journal/article/viewFile/740/1214 On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 6:53 AM wrote: > Right now at the moment, Sucks at it does... and I might not be right, > but I think language is the only way to think. > And japs and animals and even aliens it out of space,

Re: [agi] COMPUTE THIS!!!

2019-10-20 Thread rouncer81
Yep! =) -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T4f01e8a4b34d0e2a-M6aebb704320b43aaaf689195 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription

Re: [agi] COMPUTE THIS!!!

2019-10-20 Thread keghnfeem
On Sunday, October 20, 2019, at 8:45 AM, doddy wrote: > the brain creates it's own language.  Yes it does. Every one will have there own unique synesthesia.  Rouncers   internal symbol for  hellos might look like "#$%#@!"  and mine in my neural brain  is might look

Re: [agi] COMPUTE THIS!!!

2019-10-20 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
rounce...@hotmail.com wrote: > so you dont believe in an inner symbolic representation in the mind > itself? At a fundamental level, it's an utterly absurd notion. Our "inner monologues" are actually our minds trying to find words to describe cognitive processes an order of magnitude more

Re: [agi] COMPUTE THIS!!!

2019-10-20 Thread immortal . discoveries
Image a stream of words where you'll NEVER see any word ever again in the stream.. The dog goose him zomp tomp hot dfgdfg tt fhfh gfhfgj trtur dd rrr rr r rr rr -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink:

[agi] Re: How These Self-Aware Robots Are Redefining Consciousness:

2019-10-20 Thread immortal . discoveries
The primitive old way of learning was raw trial and error motor reward learning - learning to walk. The neocortex now found the better New way to learn - to daydream plans. The solution might be to first retreat back to home, then wait, then go back out to grab the food. Simulating plans uses

Re: [agi] Re: Working program in Big Snakey (?) language

2019-10-20 Thread rouncer81
Its madness mate (my work)  Ill cherry pick one for you -Its good programming, but im being a full loser in the audio, so make sure you turn the sound OFF!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzPbl_s-w50=41s its complete from scratch, im experienced, yes. --

Re: [agi] COMPUTE THIS!!!

2019-10-20 Thread immortal . discoveries
Any data the brain uses will have patterns, a language is derived from these patterns. -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T4f01e8a4b34d0e2a-M8548ee6360b8fa95aebedb52 Delivery options:

[agi] Re: How These Self-Aware Robots Are Redefining Consciousness:

2019-10-20 Thread rouncer81
Hod Lipson is a great man,  always love his vids,  but ive got a funny feeling hes being a little tricky when he makes the videos,  its a bit secretive this a.i. business. -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink:

Re: [agi] Re: Working program in Big Snakey (?) language

2019-10-20 Thread Stefan Reich via AGI
Thanks. I've been watching your videos but had a hard time really figuring them out, lol On Sun, 20 Oct 2019 at 17:16, wrote: > haha. sorry for not replying to this sooner, I didnt see it, im awashed > with a whole lot of work myself and I find little time to be social. > Looks simple, and

Re: [agi] Re: Working program in Big Snakey (?) language

2019-10-20 Thread rouncer81
haha.  sorry for not replying to this sooner, I didnt see it,  im awashed with a whole lot of work myself and I find little time to be social.    Looks simple, and great, what I usually get from your stuff S.R. if you give the computer a model of truth, it can know the answer.   like it.

Re: [agi] COMPUTE THIS!!!

2019-10-20 Thread immortal . discoveries
The AGI program will actually be a language, made from a language such as python. All mechanisms in the universe follow the laws of physics, such as moving x to a location, transforming x, segmenting x, or entailing x. It's a space-time thing. Did you notice English words are of 3 types? Type1:

Re: [agi] COMPUTE THIS!!!

2019-10-20 Thread immortal . discoveries
Kimera AI made the 1st eva AGI u know, they explain Quantum Entanglement at end of video (I'll give them credit there): https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2=INha-RH4o_M Reminds me of Glove/w2v.anyone? -- Artificial General Intelligence List:

Re: [agi] COMPUTE THIS!!!

2019-10-20 Thread immortal . discoveries
On Sunday, October 20, 2019, at 12:43 PM, immortal.discoveries wrote: > Any data the brain uses will have patterns, a language is derived from these > patterns. And, the brain is made of patterns. Everywhere. The same cortex is everywhere. -- Artificial

Re: [agi] COMPUTE THIS!!!

2019-10-20 Thread immortal . discoveries
An iterated function is also a pattern. -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T4f01e8a4b34d0e2a-M236b863aee5c1c646af002d3 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription

Re: [agi] COMPUTE THIS!!!

2019-10-20 Thread immortal . discoveries
The hardware, software, and the knowledge data the brain uses all have patterns. They use an alphabet to compute/talk/move. Patterns in data allow you to discover similar components, and then do entailment. Language is made of a few elementary letters, and has patterns that allow you to re-use

[agi] Re: How These Self-Aware Robots Are Redefining Consciousness:

2019-10-20 Thread keghnfeem
 Does anybody remember teaching them self how to walk or run. Or at the at age of five or  six you saw a butterfly and chased it. Your legs just work like magic.     Before you become fully conscious you auto train it into your self.    But there other thing that are trained into your brain at

Re: [agi] COMPUTE THIS!!!

2019-10-20 Thread immortal . discoveries
Yep as I said, words are not only visual objects, but also actions. Humans set up the patterns in this language for us already. MOVE ARM UP TOWARDS THE CAT, BE QUITE! -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink:

[agi] Re: How These Self-Aware Robots Are Redefining Consciousness:

2019-10-20 Thread rouncer81
what comes next, the prediction, or the prefered fantasy? -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T0bac50bd46a02459-Md421c8052545f9f179926294 Delivery options:

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2019-10-20 Thread rouncer81
language is the description of the physical universe sorrounding your AGI inside of its head.    But if u havent got agi and youve only got the normal applied variety - you can make so many "distinctions" and you can use the "symbols" to predict things, as a simple machine. * you can use the

Re: [agi] COMPUTE THIS!!!

2019-10-20 Thread Stefan Reich via AGI
If you write an AI, how will you write it? In a programming language, yes? So are you not using words to make an AI? QED. On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 at 22:54, Alan Grimes via AGI wrote: > To all morons, nitwits, imbiciles and twits. (It's pointless to address > crackpots because they only have a

Re: [agi] COMPUTE THIS!!!

2019-10-20 Thread rouncer81
its a description building a description, getting confused yet? :) -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T4f01e8a4b34d0e2a-Mfc4cf411e846cdc87885d7a5 Delivery options:

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2019-10-20 Thread Stefan Reich via AGI
So what is the alternative? Using numbers? You have to use _something_ in your program. Why would numbers be "smarter" than language in your view? On Sun, 20 Oct 2019 at 13:04, korrelan wrote: > Even a simple common narrow ANN does not use a language to generate it's > 'intelligence', yes the

Re: [agi] COMPUTE THIS!!!

2019-10-20 Thread korrelan
I agree with Alan, an intelligence learns language... language does not make an intelligence. :) -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T4f01e8a4b34d0e2a-Mac422d06aafa3982ec53b114 Delivery options:

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2019-10-20 Thread korrelan
Even a simple common narrow ANN does not use a language to generate it's 'intelligence', yes the program is written in a language but the calculations/ processing are generated by a process/ schema... not the language. Human languages are just a common communication protocol, there is no

Re: [agi] COMPUTE THIS!!!

2019-10-20 Thread rouncer81
so you dont believe in an inner symbolic representation in the mind itself? -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T4f01e8a4b34d0e2a-M7518de78a98f0b20673c7b59 Delivery options:

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2019-10-20 Thread Brett N Martensen
Time for some studying: Read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_of_thought_hypothesis And: https://schneiderwebsite.com/uploads/8/3/7/5/83756330/lot_for_the-routledge-companion-to-philosophy-of-psychology.pdf -- Artificial General Intelligence

Re: [agi] COMPUTE THIS!!!

2019-10-20 Thread Stefan Reich via AGI
I don't claim that language is the only way to think. I claim that an impressive AI can be made using language. On Sun, 20 Oct 2019 at 13:23, Brett N Martensen wrote: > Time for some studying: > > Read: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_of_thought_hypothesis > > And: > > >

Re: [agi] COMPUTE THIS!!!

2019-10-20 Thread rouncer81
Right now at the moment, Sucks at it does... and I might not be right,  but I think language is the only way to think. And japs and animals and even aliens it out of space, all do it in a similar way, because there is ONLY 1 WAY TO DO IT LOGICALLY!!!  sucks i know...

[agi] simple open source AI system for Linux to filter out AGI messages

2019-10-20 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
Hello List, Does anyone know of some open source simple AI system -running on Linux-  (maybe using simple NLP and machine learning techniques) to filter out the messages this AGI list? Or just some spamassassin or other configuration for it? I am mostly interested by "long" messages in

[agi] Re: simple open source AI system for Linux to filter out AGI messages

2019-10-20 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
On 10/20/19 1:55 PM, Basile Starynkevitch wrote: Hello List, Does anyone know of some open source simple AI system -running on Linux-  (maybe using simple NLP and machine learning techniques) to filter out the messages this AGI list? Or just some spamassassin or other configuration for

[agi] Re: simple open source AI system for Linux to filter out AGI messages

2019-10-20 Thread rouncer81
You must not need any help to get your bot going!   good onya!! -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/Ta872947168daf2d4-Mc305d2d049f7c99bee4af15e Delivery options:

[agi] Re: simple open source AI system for Linux to filter out AGI messages

2019-10-20 Thread rouncer81
on.  you. -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/Ta872947168daf2d4-M61bc20b33d8b121f5f7af30d Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription

Re: [agi] simple open source AI system for Linux to filter out AGI messages

2019-10-20 Thread Stefan Reich via AGI
I usualy find the long messages boring. I have no idea what to do with all the text. All I look for is code. On Sun, 20 Oct 2019 at 13:56, Basile Starynkevitch wrote: > Hello List, > > > Does anyone know of some open source simple AI system -running on Linux- > (maybe using simple NLP and

Re: [agi] simple open source AI system for Linux to filter out AGI messages

2019-10-20 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
On 10/20/19 2:23 PM, Stefan Reich via AGI wrote: I usualy find the long messages boring. I have no idea what to do with all the text. All I look for is code. So do I, if it runs on Linux and is at least opensource and preferably GPLv3+. Permalink