Re: [agi] Re: Call for Models: Working Memory Modelathon 2020

2020-07-07 Thread Ben Goertzel
Gary Marcus's article explains quite clearly why and how GPT2 fails to approach human-like AGI, https://thegradient.pub/gpt2-and-the-nature-of-intelligence/ He also explains the fallacy of simplistically claiming that prediction = understanding The merits or demerits of OpenCog are a different

Re: [agi] Re: Call for Models: Working Memory Modelathon 2020

2020-07-07 Thread immortal . discoveries
Make sure to read my above post. Really? You don't see how Blender (or my improvement above) is closer to AGI than GPT-2 is? Or that GPT-2 is close-ish to AGI? Do you have something better? Does it predict text/images better? What does OpenCog AI do if it can't compare to OpenAI's showcase!?

Re: [agi] Formal Language Theory Has Its Head Up Its Ass

2020-07-07 Thread John Rose
Need something akin to an LED, a Qualia Emitting Diode (QED), bidirectional... like a DIAC to communicate direct consciousness using a concept language, time symmetric. An array of quantum dots as conscious connect coupled to nervous system excited states... dots to DIAC to DIAC to dots... or

Re: [agi] Experimental Testing of CIC (the Compression Information Criterion)

2020-07-07 Thread James Bowery
On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 2:31 PM Matt Mahoney wrote: > Why bother with a CIC training and test set? Compression evaluates every > bit as a test given the previous bits as training. Even if the compression > algorithm doesn't explicitly predict bits, it is equivalent to one that > does by the chain

Re: [agi] Re: Call for Models: Working Memory Modelathon 2020

2020-07-07 Thread Ben Goertzel
Yeah we @ SingularityNET have been using Blender, and conditioning Blender on other specialized corpora, in some application work. However I don't see how this is directly useful for AGI, though it's cool for narrow-AI application work... On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 5:27 AM wrote: > > Have you seen

Re: [agi] Experimental Testing of CIC (the Compression Information Criterion)

2020-07-07 Thread Matt Mahoney
Why bother with a CIC training and test set? Compression evaluates every bit as a test given the previous bits as training. Even if the compression algorithm doesn't explicitly predict bits, it is equivalent to one that does by the chain rule. The probability of a string is equal to the product of

[agi] Re: Call for Models: Working Memory Modelathon 2020

2020-07-07 Thread immortal . discoveries
You will get that in my upcoming guide but for now try this explanation (2 parts to it): ROOT FORCE: I'll trust yous already know GPT-2 and the even cooler Blender. My discovery to improve Blender is: These AIs collect lots of diverse/general data (explores), but lots of it doesn't answer

Re: [agi] Experimental Testing of CIC (the Compression Information Criterion)

2020-07-07 Thread Ben Goertzel
COIN CON ;) On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 9:22 AM James Bowery wrote: > > A slight modification to avoid idioms like "the HIV virus": > COINC = COIN Criterion > COIN = COmpression Information criteriON > > Otherwise it would be good memetics if its psychological appeal vs memetic > drift reaches the

Re: [agi] Experimental Testing of CIC (the Compression Information Criterion)

2020-07-07 Thread James Bowery
I'm sure the Hollywood meme machine isn't worried about such quibbles as the "HIV virus" idiom populating its marquees. On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 1:43 AM Ben Goertzel wrote: > On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 11:41 PM Ben Goertzel wrote: > > > > The COIN Criterion ... sounds like money, it's got to be

Re: [agi] Experimental Testing of CIC (the Compression Information Criterion)

2020-07-07 Thread James Bowery
A slight modification to avoid idioms like "the HIV virus": COINC = COIN Criterion COIN = COmpression Information criteriON Otherwise it would be good memetics if its psychological appeal vs memetic drift reaches the selective regime in time to achieve fixation against the psychological appeal of

[agi] Re: Call for Models: Working Memory Modelathon 2020

2020-07-07 Thread keghnfeem
 Pleas explain it like i am a fiver year old. -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T604ad04bc1ba220c-Mc75ef5f73e57ee87f61224b3 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription

[agi] Mentifex Communicat 2020-07-07

2020-07-07 Thread A.T. Murray
Yesterday on Cable News Network (CNN) the president of my Alma Mater was talking about the one hundred thirty-seven (137) fratboys on Greek Row who recently caught the coronavirus during their incessant parties and keggers and Animal House orgies. She bragged about how back in March 2020 she was

[agi] Re: Call for Models: Working Memory Modelathon 2020

2020-07-07 Thread immortal . discoveries
Have you seen PPLM, CTRL, and Blender? They all do the same thing but are an improvement on GPT-2. Blender is the farthest, it both controls the generation, plus is trained on chat logs, wiki, and empathy, plus finishers its reply to you. I can build on Blender. No one yet has realized my

[agi] Call for Models: Working Memory Modelathon 2020

2020-07-07 Thread ARAKAWA Naoya
(Please allow me to 'call' here.) The Whole Brain Architecture Initiative, the NPO, is planning the 5th WBA Hackathon with the theme of working memory, which is considered to be the keystone for 'fluid' cognitive functions such as planning, and thus for AGI. Prior to the hackathon, it

Re: [agi] Formal Language Theory Has Its Head Up Its Ass

2020-07-07 Thread Ben Goertzel
Wow, fascinating history! I know both Dean Radin and Ed May ... I haven't been active in empirical psi research but as you may know I edited the book "Evidence for Psi" with Damien Broderick a few years back, and have been lurking around the parapsychology community for quite a while... This

Re: [agi] Experimental Testing of CIC (the Compression Information Criterion)

2020-07-07 Thread Ben Goertzel
On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 11:41 PM Ben Goertzel wrote: > > The COIN Criterion ... sounds like money, it's got to be good... Maybe we can fund the competition by making a Hollywood-style thriller about some Bitcoin criminals... lots of potentials here... > > On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 9:13 PM James