Re: [agi] Re: Another Kind of KC Prize

2021-10-15 Thread immortal . discoveries
Then why would I do this contest instead of the Hutter Prize / LC contest if I *still need to make an ANN* ? How does this contest change my ANN, is not my ANN still exactly the SAME algo This contest is making no sense Can one use GPT on this contest and if not how do you expect them

Re: [agi] Re: Another Kind of KC Prize

2021-10-15 Thread Matt Mahoney
You can build a computer out of NOR gates and program it to simulate a neural network. On Fri, Oct 15, 2021, 8:21 PM wrote: > But. > > Are we still programming neural networks if we are building these NOR > circuits? So then...why NOR circuits if we are using ANNs? I mean we

Re: [agi] Re: Another Kind of KC Prize

2021-10-15 Thread immortal . discoveries
But. Are we still programming neural networks if we are building these NOR circuits? So then...why NOR circuits if we are using ANNs? I mean we are predicitng the next bit right ? - so, therefore, you MUST use neural networks to do soHow the hell hay can you build

Re: [agi] Re: Another Kind of KC Prize

2021-10-15 Thread Matt Mahoney
Yes, n-NOR is simpler and I prefer it for that reason. I was thinking of practical implementations that already take 50 hours using 32 or 64 bit operations. We would need to write a translator for n-NOR to C, preferably one that can optimize by grouping bits into integer and vector operations. On

Re: [agi] Re: Another Kind of KC Prize

2021-10-15 Thread James Bowery
I have a couple of reasons to avoid changing the metric to include anything but n-NOR DCG complexity: 1) A lot of the resistance to adopting lossless compression as model selection criterion is based on Kolmogorov Complexity's open parameter: Choice of UTM. Indeed, I see the psychological appeal

Re: [agi] Re: Another Kind of KC Prize

2021-10-15 Thread Matt Mahoney
On Fri, Oct 15, 2021, 4:50 PM wrote: > So the goal is to make a circuit (?_that is ONLY made of NOR components_?) > that outputs a 1 only when the input is enwik9? Hence the size of said > circuit is the score? How do you know if some other input ex. enwik8 > wouldn't pop out a 1? You'd have to

Re: [agi] Re: Another Kind of KC Prize

2021-10-15 Thread immortal . discoveries
So the goal is to make a circuit (?_that is ONLY made of NOR components_?) that outputs a 1 only when the input is enwik9? Hence the size of said circuit is the score? How do you know if some other input ex. enwik8 wouldn't pop out a 1? You'd have to feed in all possible inputs to see if does,

Re: [agi] Re: Another Kind of KC Prize

2021-10-15 Thread Matt Mahoney
A non trivial problem would be to find a minimal NOR network with a 33 bit input and 1 bit output such that for binary input n, the output is the n'th bit of enwik9. On Fri, Oct 15, 2021, 1:38 PM James Bowery wrote: > Good catch with that reductio ad trivialum of my specification, Matt. > Your

Re: [agi] Re: Another Kind of KC Prize

2021-10-15 Thread James Bowery
Good catch with that reductio ad trivialum of my specification, Matt. Your proposed continually varying voltage to produce a serial output would still work, although not accomplishing quite what I wanted to with the parallel input being "compressed" into a serial representation and then

Re: [agi] Conference link

2021-10-15 Thread Daniel Jue
Links from the Zoom chat: We are about to start #AGI21 in 5 minutes! We have three rooms of workshops 1) https://youtu.be/yky-9rZVZEQ @bengoertzel et al. in Room 1 Room 2 is a NARS workshop with Christian Hahm, Wang, and Peter Isaev https://youtu.be/bh2vx_d_img Room 3 today is an Interpretable

Re: [agi] Conference link

2021-10-15 Thread digikar via AGI
Just located  https://www.youtube.com/c/SingularityNET/videos?view=2=dd_view=502_id=0  from the links on the  https://wiki.opencog.org/w/Workshop_on_Scaling_up_Neural-Symbolic_and_Integrative_AGI_Architectures  Ben linked in the other thread! -- Artificial

RE: [agi] Zoom and YouTube links for today's Neural-Symbolic AGI workshop (part of AGI-21)

2021-10-15 Thread Brett Martensen
How about the link for the NARS Tutorial and workshop? Thanks Brett -Original Message- From: Ben Goertzel [mailto:bengoert...@gmail.com] Sent: October 15, 2021 11:34 AM To: opencog; AGI Subject: [agi] Zoom and YouTube links for today's Neural-Symbolic AGI workshop (part of AGI-21) See

[agi] Zoom and YouTube links for today's Neural-Symbolic AGI workshop (part of AGI-21)

2021-10-15 Thread Ben Goertzel
See https://wiki.opencog.org/w/Workshop_on_Scaling_up_Neural-Symbolic_and_Integrative_AGI_Architectures -- Ben Goertzel, PhD b...@goertzel.org "My humanity is a constant self-overcoming" -- Friedrich Nietzsche -- Artificial General Intelligence List:

Re: [agi] Re: Another Kind of KC Prize

2021-10-15 Thread Matt Mahoney
Using pure logic (no time delays) you could construct a logic circuit that outputs 1 when the input is enwik9 and 0 otherwise. It would consist of a single NOR gate with 8 x 10^9 inputs and an inverter for each 1 bit of enwik9. You could also construct a logic circuit that outputs enwik9 when the

Re: [agi] Conference link

2021-10-15 Thread Matthew Ikle
Working on it > On Oct 15, 2021, at 5:35 AM, Brett N Martensen wrote: > > Hi Mohammadreza, > > I filled out the registration form but still haven't received any links. > Hopefully they will be coming soon. > > Cheers > Brett > Thanks for filling out AGI-21 Registration Email List >

Re: [agi] Re: Conference link

2021-10-15 Thread Mohammadreza Alidoust
Thanks Brett. I did not receive a link too. On Fri, Oct 15, 2021, 16:06 Brett N Martensen wrote: > Hi Mohammadreza, > > I filled out the registration form but still haven't received any links. > Hopefully they will be coming soon. > > Cheers > Brett > > Thanks for filling out AGI-21

[agi] Re: Conference link

2021-10-15 Thread Brett N Martensen
Hi Mohammadreza, I filled out the registration form but still haven't received any links. Hopefully they will be coming soon. Cheers Brett Thanks for filling out AGI-21 Registration Email List

[agi] Conference link

2021-10-15 Thread Mohammadreza Alidoust
My dear AGI friend, Could you please send me the link to the online conference? Best regards, Mohammadreza Alidoust -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T6b7e604874371a91-Mfa8db9a97f5e1183f355c26d