On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 11:55 PM Matt Mahoney
wrote:
> How would you eliminate racism and sexism? It is already illegal to make
> important decisions based on race, sex, religion, sexual orientation, etc.
> in many developed countries. This hasn't stopped people from being biased.
> I am at
On Tue, Jun 27, 2023, 11:43 AM WriterOfMinds
wrote:
> I don't have any great fear of what IS or of letting other people know
> what IS. But with regards to the specific issue we're discussing, I
> consider the question of what IS at a racial level irrelevant, since it
> should not affect
I don't have any great fear of what IS or of letting other people know what IS.
But with regards to the specific issue we're discussing, I consider the
question of what IS at a racial level irrelevant, since it should not affect
decisions. Therefore answering it is not important; if you aren't
On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 10:13 AM Jenny Sue Hane
wrote:
> Many of the statistics you're repeating here could be a case of
> correlation rather than causation
>
The Algorithmic Information Criterion is the best we can do in selecting
between causal models of the world as reflected in whatever
On Tuesday, June 27, 2023, at 9:55 AM, Matt Mahoney wrote:
> I am at least aware of my own biases, but that hasn't stopped me from being
> biased. I judge people by their appearance and anyone who says they don't is
> lying.
But we aren't talking about you, are we? We're talking about AGI,
How would you eliminate racism and sexism? It is already illegal to make
important decisions based on race, sex, religion, sexual orientation, etc.
in many developed countries. This hasn't stopped people from being biased.
I am at least aware of my own biases, but that hasn't stopped me from being
Many of the statistics you're repeating here could be a case of correlation
rather than causation, so by themselves they don't mean much. But that's
not even the point. Using sexual or racial stereotypes (even when they are
realistic) to make important decisions denies due process to the
The relevant topic here is not who on this list is racist. It is how racism
should be handled by AGI. A language model learns to predict or compress
text by constructing a model of the world as it is known to humans. Humans
are universally racist. People prefer friends, neighbors, and usually
On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 6:35 PM Mike Archbold wrote:
> The problem with AIT is you need a PhD to understand it, ...
>
The problem with AIT is you need a PhD to _not_ understand it and PhD's not
only wield authority over the rest of the field but have an incentive to
obscure Ockham's Razor. It
