On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 11:55 PM Matt Mahoney <[email protected]>
wrote:

> How would you eliminate racism and sexism? It is already illegal to make
> important decisions based on race, sex, religion, sexual orientation, etc.
> in many developed countries. This hasn't stopped people from being biased.
> I am at least aware of my own biases, but that hasn't stopped me from being
> biased. I judge people by their appearance and anyone who says they don't
> is lying.
>

1) In America the measures to enforce racial equality are incomplete and
not very effective.  For example there is equal opportunity law but there
is also "employment at will" which are contradictory.  If you can fire
people without giving any reason, you can't tell if there's racism
involved.  Apparently, many Americanswant to cheat their way around genuine
progress.  And this is one of the reasons why America is in decline --
people all over the world are starting to refuse to buy their bull shit.

2) If a company cannot fire someone based on race, then logically it also
should not recruit people based on race or nationality.  And soon enough it
will find itself having to recruit people globally, and the idea of an
"American company" is no longer meaningful.  I am actually advocating and
trying to implement exactly this. But obviously many Americans would try to
prolong the status quo and delay progress.

3) We are no longer allowed to judge people with our biases, at least not
in the public sphere such as business or political settings.  You can't say
that this is "fake" just because there is a strong tendency to be biased.
When a beautiful woman applies for a job, many men are naturally attracted
to them, but it doesn't mean that they should let their decision be biased
by the looks.  And we're not just "pretending".  We're trying to uphold
certain standards *in spite* of natural tendencies to be biased.  It is
feasible.  Civilized people override their natural instincts all the time,
because we're not animals 😄

> Legal discrimination by country of birth is the worst kind because it
> perpetuates poverty in the underdeveloped countries. This is at least
> something that could be solved. Free trade and travel across borders
> benefits both sides in the long run, but the rich countries aren't having
> it.
>

We can start corporations that have racial equality writ into its
constitution.  That's what I'm doing.  The companies that have a
nationalistic bias will be looked upon as outdated.

Maybe AGI can solve this by developing the poor countries to entice the
> rich countries to open their borders. This does seem to be happening,
> slowly.
>

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