Re: [agi] Restating Colin's Hypothesis

2015-05-17 Thread Logan Streondj
On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 11:28:08PM -0300, Felipe Carmona Miquilini wrote: Why are there lot of people who loves to use Linux/Unix terminals (I mean, through command line), instead of a practical GUI (perhaps Windows?)? One answer could be because they know that in several moments they will

Re: [agi] Restating Colin's Hypothesis

2015-05-14 Thread Felipe Carmona Miquilini
We are a good example of Intelligent beings, I mean in our point of view, we are an awesome starting point of an instance of an intelligent being. Being so it is quite logic to compare our conceptual models and/or approach in AGI alongside our own inner models. And I think it will drive to a

Re: [agi] Restating Colin's Hypothesis

2015-05-14 Thread Felipe Carmona Miquilini
Two questions, Two points of view, One problem Why are computers less intelligent than us? Why do we consider computers less intelligent than us? Why are we focusing on creating computers with more functionality instead of focusing on solving the problem of the hungry and other suffering from

Re: [agi] Restating Colin's Hypothesis

2015-05-14 Thread Alan Grimes
Felipe Carmona Miquilini wrote: Two questions, Two points of view, One problem Why are computers less intelligent than us? Why do we consider computers less intelligent than us? Why are we focusing on creating computers with more functionality instead of focusing on solving the problem of

Re: [agi] Restating Colin's Hypothesis

2015-05-11 Thread Benjamin Kapp
Sent: ‎11/‎05/‎2015 4:46 AM To: AGI a...@listbox.com Subject: Re: [agi] Restating Colin's Hypothesis Colin, OK, I think I see our point of confusion. I covered this point briefly before. I'll try again... You seem to be stuck on a particular explanation involving exquisite sensitivity

Re: [agi] Restating Colin's Hypothesis

2015-05-11 Thread Colin Hales
-- To: a...@listbox.com From: col.ha...@gmail.com Subject: RE: [agi] Restating Colin's Hypothesis Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 14:34:16 +1000 Grocking done. I think. I'm 'stuck' on replicating the signaling that happens in the brain using the physics the brain uses

Re: [agi] Restating Colin's Hypothesis

2015-05-11 Thread Mike Archbold
/‎2015 4:46 AM To: AGI a...@listbox.com Subject: Re: [agi] Restating Colin's Hypothesis Colin, OK, I think I see our point of confusion. I covered this point briefly before. I'll try again... You seem to be stuck on a particular explanation involving exquisite sensitivity that is NOT needed

Re: [agi] Restating Colin's Hypothesis

2015-05-11 Thread Colin Hales
application) at a structured (in the sense of RD based) systems-analysis and design level. Watching bio-forms grow Rob -- To: a...@listbox.com From: col.ha...@gmail.com Subject: RE: [agi] Restating Colin's Hypothesis Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 14:34:16 +1000 Grocking done

RE: [agi] Restating Colin's Hypothesis

2015-05-11 Thread Nanograte Knowledge Technologies
@Russ Thank you for the link. Most useful. Rob From: rhurl...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 02:55:30 + Subject: Re: [agi] Restating Colin's Hypothesis To: a...@listbox.com @Steve, Colin The link here provides a list of papers that I pulled together from prior research in hope

Re: [agi] Restating Colin's Hypothesis

2015-05-11 Thread Colin Hales
Hi Russ, Thanks for the links. I'll assimilate them into my database of papers on it. Some I know of already. None of mine are in the list. Most of it is in the class (I suspect) of 'possibly useful to understand a human meat brain' but less so if you want to build an artificial brain. All

Re: [agi] Restating Colin's Hypothesis

2015-05-11 Thread Russ Hurlbut
@Steve, Colin The link here provides a list of papers that I pulled together from prior research in hope of nudging the discussion along. I have not been following all of the details here, but would be interested in your reaction to any of these (mostly) divergent theories and models as it

RE: [agi] Restating Colin's Hypothesis

2015-05-10 Thread colin hales
a...@listbox.com Subject: Re: [agi] Restating Colin's Hypothesis Colin, OK, I think I see our point of confusion. I covered this point briefly before. I'll try again... You seem to be stuck on a particular explanation involving exquisite sensitivity that is NOT needed to make super-sensitive

Re: [agi] Restating Colin's Hypothesis

2015-05-10 Thread Steve Richfield
old circuits! Cheers Colin -- From: Steve Richfield steve.richfi...@gmail.com Sent: ‎7/‎05/‎2015 7:15 PM To: AGI a...@listbox.com Subject: Re: [agi] Restating Colin's Hypothesis Colin, Are you familiar with super-regenerative receivers? These are simple

Re: [agi] Restating Colin's Hypothesis

2015-05-09 Thread Steve Richfield
Richfield steve.richfi...@gmail.com Sent: ‎7/‎05/‎2015 7:15 PM To: AGI a...@listbox.com Subject: Re: [agi] Restating Colin's Hypothesis Colin, Are you familiar with super-regenerative receivers? These are simple circuits - well within what we already know neurons can do, that extract subtle

RE: [agi] Restating Colin's Hypothesis

2015-05-09 Thread colin hales
Richfield steve.richfi...@gmail.com Sent: ‎10/‎05/‎2015 6:06 AM To: AGI a...@listbox.com Subject: Re: [agi] Restating Colin's Hypothesis Colin, I think you missed my point. I'll try again... The information content in the EM field is, except for that portion of the EM field that is generated

RE: [agi] Restating Colin's Hypothesis

2015-05-09 Thread colin hales
as those old circuits! Cheers Colin -Original Message- From: Steve Richfield steve.richfi...@gmail.com Sent: ‎7/‎05/‎2015 7:15 PM To: AGI a...@listbox.com Subject: Re: [agi] Restating Colin's Hypothesis Colin, Are you familiar with super-regenerative receivers? These are simple circuits

Re: [agi] Restating Colin's Hypothesis

2015-05-09 Thread Alan Grimes
colin hales wrote: I remember those circuits You sometimes can find them in old books that also speak of the 'aether'  It's not a route to brain-mimetic fields. All we really have to do is replicate the fields of the membrane. I already know how they are generated. They 100% consistent

Re: [agi] Restating Colin's Hypothesis

2015-05-07 Thread Steve Richfield
Colin, Are you familiar with super-regenerative receivers? These are simple circuits - well within what we already know neurons can do, that extract subtle features of EM fields - like the energy at a particular frequency. This concept could be adapted to extract all sorts of subtle features from

RE: [agi] Restating Colin's Hypothesis

2015-05-06 Thread Nanograte Knowledge Technologies
Steve, here's some input. Colin stated: Because it's not using neurons it won't automatically mimic brains in structure. I have no idea what a brain will look like. Physically its a crystalline rock. No actual material growth. I think Colin is building a generic platform for generative,

RE: [agi] Restating Colin's Hypothesis

2015-05-06 Thread Nanograte Knowledge Technologies
Subject: Re: [agi] Restating Colin's Hypothesis From: stask...@gmail.com To: a...@listbox.com Not bad guys, but next question time. It's either a really stupid question or a legit next step in terms of quantum biophysics. What are the Feynman diagrams of these EM fields when they are generated

Re: [agi] Restating Colin's Hypothesis

2015-05-06 Thread Colin Hales
Hi all, I'm struggling to find time to attend here. My appearances will be patchy. Your restatement of where I am is heading in the right direction. That is, you're grappling with the beginnings of the right ideas. Which is good to see. My goal here is simply to get the general idea of AGI as a