RE: [agi] Thinking may be overrated.

2002-12-30 Thread Ben Goertzel
Kevin Copple wrote: I do not want to say that random trial and error is the ultimate form of intelligent thought. Far from it. But given what nature and humankind have achieved with it to date, and that we may not even recognize the extent to which it is involved in our own thought, it

Re: [agi] Linguistic DB

2002-12-30 Thread Simon McClenahan
Would it be easier for a computer to learn a less complicated animal language like dog, whale, dolphin, etc. If a database was created from animal languages, maybe then we could also translate animal language to human language and back again. Hmm. How did human language evolve anyway? Surely we

RE: [agi] Linguistic DB

2002-12-30 Thread Ben Goertzel
Well, animal languages are not languages in the same sense as human languages... We humans don't really know them very well, and it seems to me that they would be VERY hard for an AI to use effectively unless that AI were embodied in a close simulation of an appropriate animal body. Animal

Re: [agi] Early Apps.

2002-12-30 Thread Damien Sullivan
Gary Miller wrote: That being said other than Cyc I am at a loss to name any serious AI efforts which are over a few years in duration and have more that 5 man years worth of effort (not counting promotional and fundraising). No offense, but I suspect you need to read more of the

Re: [agi] Early Apps.

2002-12-30 Thread Pei Wang
As I posted to this mailing list a few months ago, I have a list (now including 10 projects) that: a.. Each of them has the plan to eventually grow into a thinking machine or artificial general intelligence (so it is not merely about part of AI); b.. Each of them has been carried out for

Re: [agi] Early Apps.

2002-12-30 Thread Pei Wang
Sorry, I forgot to mention that my list is at http://www.cis.temple.edu/~pwang/203-AI/Lecture/203-1126.htm. Happy New Year to everyone! Pei - Original Message - From: Pei Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [agi] Early