[agi] Using object oriented databases for mapping structures

2007-02-25 Thread Aki Iskandar
For those leveraging existing datastores, has anyone had any success with using object oriented databases, as opposed to relational databases, for mapping the data structures in your AI / AGI programs - and if so, what textbook algorithms have worked for you? I'm trying Zope's ZODB (since

[agi] Do AGIs dream of electric sheep?

2007-02-25 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
This is a light article about the purpose and value of sleep in humans: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/technology/technology.html?in_article_id=437683in_page_id=1965 The article is nothing earth shattering, but it reminded me that I've thought for a long time that an AGI would

Re: [agi] Do AGIs dream of electric sheep?

2007-02-25 Thread Matt Mahoney
I believe the purpose of sleep in placental and marsupial mammals (the only animals with REM sleep) is to copy medium term (daily) memories from the hippocampus to long term memory in the cortex. In humans, only visual and verbal memories are transferred (as dreams). During deep sleep between

Re: [agi] Do AGIs dream of electric sheep?

2007-02-25 Thread Ben Goertzel
What about the AGIs that people are building or working towards, such as those from Novamente, AdaptiveAI, Hall, etc.? Do/Will your systems have sleep periods for internal maintenance and improvement? If so, what types of activities do they perform during sleep? Novamente doesn't need to

Re: [agi] Using object oriented databases for mapping structures

2007-02-25 Thread Russell Wallace
On 2/25/07, Aki Iskandar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those leveraging existing datastores, has anyone had any success with using object oriented databases, as opposed to relational databases, for mapping the data structures in your AI / AGI programs - and if so, what textbook algorithms have

Re: [agi] Using object oriented databases for mapping structures

2007-02-25 Thread Aki Iskandar
Interesting. I'm new at exploring / studying AI - but I've been on software projects, professionally, for just over a decade now. Mostly as a developer, and in the more recent years, as an architect. I just assumed that there were bound to be similarities between business apps and AI

Re: [agi] Using object oriented databases for mapping structures

2007-02-25 Thread Russell Wallace
On 2/26/07, Aki Iskandar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since OODBs promise to do the same thing as ORMs, from the developer's point of reference, I thought I'd try to leverage them. Sure, you can use either. My point is simply that relational is better than OO, so using an OODB or ORM, while

Re: [agi] Do AGIs dream of electric sheep?

2007-02-25 Thread Kevin Peterson
On 2/26/07, Chuck Esterbrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But wouldn't it be difficult to integrate the results of the experimental copy back into the working copy which has since had new experiences, memory formation and lessons at the end of the time period for experimentation and/or optimization?

Re: [agi] Using object oriented databases for mapping structures

2007-02-25 Thread J. Andrew Rogers
On Feb 25, 2007, at 8:03 PM, Aki Iskandar wrote: In building business software, ORMs (object relational mappers) are growing in popularity mainly because it helps to abstract the mechanics of the database from the developers, allowing them to spend more of their time to solve the problem