Re: [agi] Re: HTM vs. IHDR

2007-06-29 Thread Lukasz Stafiniak
On 6/29/07, YKY (Yan King Yin) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've talked to John Weng many times before, and I found that his AGI has some problems but he wasn't very eager to talk about them. For example, it could only recognize pre-trained objects (eg, a certain doll) but not general object

Re: [agi] Re: HTM vs. IHDR

2007-06-29 Thread Lukasz Stafiniak
On 6/29/07, Lukasz Stafiniak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems intuitive that bottom-up approach is better at generalization. HTM is much more sophisticated, conditional probabilities, and the learning in context of sequences, must really be helpful. (IHDR can have time-chunking but this is not

Re: [agi] Re: HTM vs. IHDR

2007-06-29 Thread Kingma, D.P.
In theory, HTM's are not restricted to off-line learning. For some reason the NuPIC software doesn't allow it ye, primarily because of implementation issues. One reason is that a HTM module's learning mechanism presumes a predetermined input alphabet. They're working on improvements though, iirc.

Re: [agi] Re: HTM vs. IHDR

2007-06-29 Thread Mike Tintner
YKY: I've talked to John Weng many times before, and I found that his AGI has some problems but he wasn't very eager to talk about them. MT: Is anyone in AGI eager to talk about their problems? My impression is it's a universal failing. YKY: For example, it could only recognize pre-trained

Re: [agi] Re: HTM vs. IHDR

2007-06-29 Thread Lukasz Stafiniak
BTW, has HTM been seriously tried at medical images understanding? - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=231415user_secret=e9e40a7e

Re: [agi] Re: HTM vs. IHDR

2007-06-29 Thread Kingma, D.P.
I have followed HTM progress to some extend but have not seen any medical applications of NuPIC. Or any serious applications for that matter, unless groups beside Numenta have created an advanced HTM implementation... To get an idea of current applications you could check out the (quite shallow)

Re: [agi] Re: HTM vs. IHDR

2007-06-29 Thread YKY (Yan King Yin)
On 6/29/07, Mike Tintner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: YKY: I've talked to John Weng many times before, and I found that his AGI has some problems but he wasn't very eager to talk about them. MT: Is anyone in AGI eager to talk about their problems? My impression is it's a universal failing.

Re: [agi] Re: HTM vs. IHDR

2007-06-29 Thread Bob Mottram
From what I've seen so far HTM has only been applied to very trivial binary images far less complex than medical images or more ordinary scenes. If they can return reasonable results from camera images in a way which is invariant to scale, translation and rotation then I'll be impressed. As I

Re: [agi] Re: HTM vs. IHDR

2007-06-29 Thread Mike Tintner
Bob M: As I understand it from Numenta's own forums this kind of invariance is not achievable with the demos which they've produced so far, although it's an essential characteristic of any general purpose vision system. Thanks for info. What then is the feeling/ mood over at Numenta about the

[agi] linguistic pattern recognition (formal language pattern reco)

2007-06-29 Thread Linas Vepstas
Hi, I am looking for technical papers and/or code for a simple form of linguistic pattern recognition, specifically, that for finite automata. Its well known that a regular language (a type of formal language) is in 1-1 correpsondance with a finite state machine (each finie state machine can

Re: [agi] What's wrong with being biased?

2007-06-29 Thread Eliezer S. Yudkowsky
Stefan Pernar wrote: Now why is that? Cognitive biases could be... a) ...less fit characteristics of human cognition that did not pose too big a problem for humanity to make it to the current day (like an infection prone appendix of the mind - bad but not too bad). b) ...fitness increasing