Matt,
Printing ahh or ouch is just for show. The important observation is that
the program changes its behavior in response to a reinforcement signal in the
same way that animals do.
Let me remind you that the problem we were originally discussing was
about qualia and uploading. Not just about a
.
-Original Message-
From: Matt Mahoney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 5:32 PM
To: agi@v2.listbox.com
Subject: Re: Introducing Autobliss 1.0 (was RE: [agi] Nirvana? Manyana?
Never!)
--- Jiri Jelinek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Matt,
autobliss passes tests
--- Jiri Jelinek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Matt,
Printing ahh or ouch is just for show. The important observation is
that
the program changes its behavior in response to a reinforcement signal in
the
same way that animals do.
Let me remind you that the problem we were originally
--- Gary Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Too complicate things further.
A small percentage of humans perceive pain as pleasure
and prefer it at least in a sexual context or else
fetishes like sadomachism would not exist.
And they do in fact experience pain as a greater pleasure.
More
Matt,
You algorithm is too complex.
What's the point of doing step 1?
Step 2 is sufficient.
Saturday, November 3, 2007, 8:01:45 PM, you wrote:
So we can dispense with the complex steps of making a detailed copy of your
brain and then have it transition into a degenerate state, and just skip
--- Richard Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Matt Mahoney wrote:
--- Richard Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Matt Mahoney wrote:
--- Jiri Jelinek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Nov 11, 2007 5:39 PM, Matt Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We just need to control AGIs goal system.
Matt,
autobliss passes tests for awareness of its inputs and responds as if it has
qualia. How is it fundamentally different from human awareness of pain and
pleasure, or is it just a matter of degree?
If your code has feelings it reports then reversing the order of the
feeling strings (without
Matt Mahoney wrote:
--- Richard Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Matt Mahoney wrote:
--- Jiri Jelinek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Nov 11, 2007 5:39 PM, Matt Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We just need to control AGIs goal system.
You can only control the goal system of the first
--- Jiri Jelinek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Nov 11, 2007 5:39 PM, Matt Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We just need to control AGIs goal system.
You can only control the goal system of the first iteration.
..and you can add rules for it's creations (e.g. stick with the same
Matt Mahoney wrote:
--- Jiri Jelinek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Nov 11, 2007 5:39 PM, Matt Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We just need to control AGIs goal system.
You can only control the goal system of the first iteration.
..and you can add rules for it's creations (e.g. stick with
--- Richard Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Matt Mahoney wrote:
--- Jiri Jelinek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Nov 11, 2007 5:39 PM, Matt Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We just need to control AGIs goal system.
You can only control the goal system of the first iteration.
..and
On Nov 11, 2007 5:39 PM, Matt Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We just need to control AGIs goal system.
You can only control the goal system of the first iteration.
..and you can add rules for it's creations (e.g. stick with the same
goals/rules unless authorized otherwise)
But if
I've often heard people say things like qualia are an illusion or
consciousness is just an illusion, but the concept of an illusion
when applied to the mind is not very helpful, since all our thoughts
and perceptions could be considered as illusions reconstructed from
limited sensory data and
Matt,
We can compute behavior, but nothing indicates we can compute
feelings. Qualia research needed to figure out new platforms for
uploading.
Regards,
Jiri Jelinek
On Nov 4, 2007 1:15 PM, Matt Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Jiri Jelinek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Matt,
Create a
--- Jiri Jelinek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Matt,
Create a numeric pleasure variable in your mind, initialize it with
a positive number and then keep doubling it for some time. Done? How
do you feel? Not a big difference? Oh, keep doubling! ;-))
The point of autobliss.cpp is to illustrate
On 11/4/07, Matt Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Let's say your goal is to stimulate your nucleus accumbens. (Everyone has
this goal; they just don't know it). The problem is that you would forgo
food, water, and sleep until you died (we assume, from animal experiments).
We have no need to
--- Edward W. Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If bliss without intelligence is the goal of the machines you imaging
running the world, for the cost of supporting one human they could
probably keep at least 100 mice in equal bliss, so if they were driven to
maximize bliss why wouldn't they kill
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