From: Matt Mahoney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
True, we can't explain why the human brain needs 10^15 synapses to
store 10^9 bits of long term memory (Landauer's estimate). Typical
neural networks store 0.15 to 0.25 bits per synapse.
This study -
--- On Mon, 11/3/08, John G. Rose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This study -
http://www.cogsci.rpi.edu/CSJarchive/1986v10/i04/p0477p0493/MAIN.PDF
is just throwing a dart at the wall. You'd need
something more real life
instead of word and picture recall calculations to arrive
at a number even
From: Matt Mahoney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--- On Thu, 10/30/08, John G. Rose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Matt Mahoney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cloud computing is compatible with my proposal for distributed AGI.
It's just not big enough. I would need 10^10 processors, each
--- On Sun, 11/2/08, John G. Rose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Still though I don't agree on your initial
numbers estimate for AGI. A bit
high perhaps? Your numbers may be able
to be trimmed down based on refined assumptions.
True, we can't explain why the human brain needs 10^15 synapses to
It sure seems to me that the availability of cloud computing is valuable
to the AGI project. There are some claims that maybe intelligent programs
are still waiting on sufficient computer power, but with something like
this, anybody who really thinks that and has some real software in mind
has no
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 6:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It sure seems to me that the availability of cloud computing is valuable
to the AGI project. There are some claims that maybe intelligent programs
are still waiting on sufficient computer power, but with something like
this, anybody
From: Russell Wallace [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 6:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It sure seems to me that the availability of cloud computing is
valuable
to the AGI project. There are some claims that maybe intelligent
programs
are still waiting on sufficient
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 3:07 PM, John G. Rose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My suspicion though is that say you had 100 physical servers and then 100
physical cloud servers. You could hand tailor your distributed application
so that it is extremely more efficient not running on the cloud substrate.
Unless you are going to hand-wire some special processor-to-processor
interconnect fabric, this seems probably not to be true...
ben g
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Russell Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 3:07 PM, John G. Rose [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
My
From: Ben Goertzel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 9:18 AM
To: agi@v2.listbox.com
Subject: Re: [agi] Cloud Intelligence
Unless you are going to hand-wire some special processor-to-processor
interconnect fabric, this seems probably not to be true...
ben g
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 3:42 PM, John G. Rose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not talking custom hardware, when you take your existing app and apply it to
the distributed resource and network topology (your 100 servers) you can
structure it to maximize its execution reward. And the design of the app
From: Russell Wallace [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 3:42 PM, John G. Rose [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Not talking custom hardware, when you take your existing app and
apply it to
the distributed resource and network topology (your 100 servers) you
can
structure it to
Cloud computing is compatible with my proposal for distributed AGI. It's just
not big enough. I would need 10^10 processors, each 10^3 to 10^6 times more
powerful than a PC.
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From: Matt Mahoney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cloud computing is compatible with my proposal for distributed AGI.
It's just not big enough. I would need 10^10 processors, each 10^3 to
10^6 times more powerful than a PC.
The only thing we have that come close to those numbers are insect
--- On Thu, 10/30/08, John G. Rose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Matt Mahoney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cloud computing is compatible with my proposal for distributed AGI.
It's just not big enough. I would need 10^10 processors, each 10^3 to
10^6 times more powerful than a PC.
John G. Rose wrote:
Has anyone done some analysis on cloud computing, in particular the
recent trend and coming out of clouds with multiple startup efforts in
this space? And their relationship to AGI type applications?
Or is this phenomena just geared to web server farm resource
2008/10/29 Samantha Atkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
John G. Rose wrote:
Has anyone done some analysis on cloud computing, in particular the recent
trend and coming out of clouds with multiple startup efforts in this space?
And their relationship to AGI type applications?
Beware of putting too
From: Bob Mottram [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Beware of putting too much stuff into the cloud. Especially in the
current economic climate clouds could disappear without notice (i.e.
unrecoverable data loss). Also, depending upon terms and conditions
any data which you put into the cloud may
I guess I don't see how cloud computing is materially different from
open source in so much as we see the sharing of resources and also now
increased availability, no need to buy so much hardware at the outset.
But it seems more a case of convenience.
So what does that have to do with AGI? I
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