Re: [agi] Context free text analysis is not a proper method of natural language understanding

2007-10-03 Thread Bob Mottram
On 03/10/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Given (1), no context-free analysis can understand natural language. Given (2), no adaptive agent can learn (proper) understanding of natural language given only texts. For human-like understanding, an AGI would need to participate in

Re: [agi] Context free text analysis is not a proper method of natural language understanding

2007-10-03 Thread Vladimir Nesov
... or maybe they can be inferred from texts alone. It all depends on learning ability of particular design, and we as yet have none. Cart before the horse. On 10/3/07, Bob Mottram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 03/10/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Given (1), no context-free

Re: [agi] Context free text analysis is not a proper method of natural language understanding

2007-10-03 Thread Matt Mahoney
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Relating to the idea that text compression (as demonstrated by general compression algorithms) is a measure of intelligence, Claims: (1) To understand natural language requires knowledge (CONTEXT) of the social world(s) it refers to. (2) Communication includes

Re: [agi] Context dependent words/concepts

2006-08-22 Thread James Ratcliff
This is one of the main concepts / problems of AI, is it not? Removing the ambiguity from our language in order to understand it. So you could remove it on the KR side, but you would still need to convert the regular language into the KR language, unless you would propose to have all inputs and

Re: [agi] Context dependent words/concepts

2006-08-20 Thread Ben Goertzel
I continue to maintain that: * syntactic ambiguity is unnecessary in a language of thought or communication * some level of semantic ambiguity is unavoidable and in fact essential... ben On 8/20/06, YKY (Yan King Yin) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/19/06, Ben Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [agi] Context dependent words/concepts

2006-08-19 Thread YKY (Yan King Yin)
On 8/19/06, Ben Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In blackboard the NL word maps to either a board that is black in color or a board for writing that is usually black/green/white.The KR of those concepts are unambiguous; it's just that there are 2 alternatives. This is very naive...a

Re: [agi] Context dependent words/concepts

2006-08-18 Thread YKY (Yan King Yin)
On 8/19/06, Ben Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, but I can generate a hypothetical grounding for mushrooom pie on the fly even though I haven't seen one ;-) And I can form concepts of mathematical structures that I have never experienced nor exemplified and may in fact be inconsistent

Re: [agi] Context dependent words/concepts

2006-08-18 Thread Ben Goertzel
In blackboard the NL word maps to either a board that is black in color or a board for writing that is usually black/green/white. The KR of those concepts are unambiguous; it's just that there are 2 alternatives. This is very naive... a concept such as a board that is black in color is not

RE: [agi] Context

2003-02-10 Thread Ben Goertzel
Hi, I see that Novamente has Context and NumericalContext Links, but I'm wondering if something more is needed to handle the various subtypes of context? yeah, those link types just deal with certain special situations, they are not the whole of Novamente's contextuality-handling mechanism,