Ben About PolyWorld and Alife in general... I remember playing with
Ben PolyWorld 10 years ago or so And, I had a grad student at
Ben Uni. of Western Australia build a similar system, back in my
Ben Perth days... (it was called SEE, for Simple Evolving Ecology.
Ben We never published
On Thursday 15 November 2007 08:16, Benjamin Goertzel wrote:
non-brain-based AGI. After all it's not like we know how real
chemistry gives rise to real biology yet --- the dynamics underlying
protein-folding remain ill-understood, etc. etc.
Can anybody elaborate on the actual problems
Vladimir Nesov wrote:
Here's an impressive movie:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2874207418572601262
Henry Markram, EPFL/BlueBrain: The Emergence of Intelligence in the
Neocortical Microcircuit
Good link. Thanks Vladimir.
A mini-review:
1) A positive comment: that is a *huge*
Although I thought this was a good talk and I liked the fellow
presenting it to me it seems fairly clear that little or no progress
has been made in this area over the last decade or so. In the early
1990s I wrote somewhat similar simulations where agents had their own
neural networks whose
Yes, resulted behaviors are not impressive, I did similar thing with
essentially 1 hidden layer perceptron on 2D square grid in high school
and got something that looked not much simpler (weak creatures cycling
around gathering, fat carnivores in the center hunting them, few
superfat parasites
On Thursday 15 November 2007 02:30, Bob Mottram wrote:
I think the main problem here is the low complexity of the
environment
Complex programs can only be written in an environment capable of
bearing that complexity:
http://sl4.org/archive/0710/16880.html
- Bryan
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This list is
On Nov 15, 2007 2:16 PM, Benjamin Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I remember playing with PolyWorld 10 years ago or so
Yeah. I've only had time to watch the first 20 minutes of that talk
but my reaction so far is disappointment: it's just exactly the same
as it was a decade ago? Modern
About PolyWorld and Alife in general...
I remember playing with PolyWorld 10 years ago or so And, I had a grad
student at Uni. of Western Australia build a similar system, back in my
Perth days... (it was called SEE, for Simple Evolving Ecology. We never
published anything on it, as I left
I think that linguistic interaction with human beings is going to be what
lifts Second Life proto-AGI's beyond the glass ceiling...
Our first SL agents won't have language generation or language learning
capability, but I think that introducing it is really essential, esp. given
the limitations
Which raises the question of whether the same complexity glass ceiling
will be encountered when running AGI controlled agents within Second
Life. SL is probably more complex than polyworld, although that could
be debatable depending upon your definition of complexity. One factor
which would
On Nov 15, 2007 8:57 PM, Bryan Bishop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thursday 15 November 2007 08:16, Benjamin Goertzel wrote:
non-brain-based AGI. After all it's not like we know how real
chemistry gives rise to real biology yet --- the dynamics underlying
protein-folding remain
No worries!! just wanted to clarify...
To address your question more usefully: There is soo much evidence
that chemistry is subtly important for biology in ways that are poorly
understood.
In neuroscience for instance the chemistry of synaptic transmission btw
neurons is still weakly
On Thursday 15 November 2007 20:02, Benjamin Goertzel wrote:
On Nov 15, 2007 8:57 PM, Bryan Bishop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can anybody elaborate on the actual problems remaining (beyond
etc. etc.-- which is appropriate from Ben who is most notably not
a
On Thursday 15 November 2007 21:19, Benjamin Goertzel wrote:
so we still don't know exactly how poor
a model the formal neuron used in computer science is
Speaking of which: isn't this the age-old simple math function involving
an integral or two and a summation over the inputs? I
Here's an impressive movie:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2874207418572601262
Henry Markram, EPFL/BlueBrain: The Emergence of Intelligence in the
Neocortical Microcircuit
On 11/16/07, Bryan Bishop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thursday 15 November 2007 21:19, Benjamin Goertzel wrote:
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