J. Andrew Rogers wrote:
On May 30, 2007, at 4:24 PM, Russell Wallace wrote:
I don't think patenting algorithms is a good thing - algorithms are
essentially ideas, and ideas should not be treated as property.
All patents are ideas and algorithms.
Not quite. Would you patent the quadratic e
YKY (Yan King Yin) wrote:
Hi Ben and others,
Let's analyse the opensource vs closed-source issue in more detail...
(limericks are not arugments!)
1. I guess the biggest turn-off about opensource is that it may allow
competitors to look at our source and steal our ideas / algorithms.
We u
On May 30, 2007, at 4:24 PM, Russell Wallace wrote:
I don't think patenting algorithms is a good thing - algorithms are
essentially ideas, and ideas should not be treated as property.
All patents are ideas and algorithms. There is nothing to
distinguish a classical CompSci algorithm from
Hi YKY,
There're some things about Novamente that I don't agree with, but you've
heard my points before. Some other features I think may reduce NM's
popularity, if we were to make it opensource:
I have no plans to make Novamente open-source, but I feel I should correct
some of your misconcep
Before I would join an AGI project like YKY suggests, I would want to see the
following:
1. A project goal. "AGI" is too vague. Do you want to build a better search
engine, or a robot that will babysit your kids?
2. A realistic design. YKY's approach, as I understand it, is centered around
a s
On 5/30/07, YKY (Yan King Yin) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
2b) Another thing we can do is to patent our designs and algorithms (so
there will be a grace period of 1 year between disclosing something on our
forums and patenting it).
I don't think patenting algorithms is a good thing - algorit
Derek Zahn: you have to have a theory of mind
One of the interesting things about current AGI projects like Ben's & Stan F's
(is there any other?) is that they do indeed constitute not so much theories as
models of mind - illustrated by charts in Ben's essay on Kurzweil's site. In
essence, th
I will put up a wiki in a few days, where people who'd like to contribute
ideas can post them. All contributions will be credited and may form the
basis of rewards later. Let's try this informally first. Also, I'm looking
for concrete, technical ideas / algorithms, not general talk like "free
w
This list hits all the main points. There can be slight variations but most
all of the successful open source projects that I've utilized follow this
pattern. There are some projects that start with a donation of code from a
commercial codebase. Most projects tend to be modular. Some projects d
While I don't think that Eric Raymond is the authority on a successful
open source model, he certainly has shown much success in his open
source projects. The work that he has done has laid the groundwork
for developing in the "bazaar" enviroment. If you have not read
"Cathedral and the Bazaar"
YKY writes:
> I guess many are not so keen to join my project because they think opensource
> makes it very hard to protect their ideas.Here's why I think nobody is
> jumping on your project:
1) Those with ongoing projects likely see the costs (in terms of lost
proprietary interest and futur
I guess many are not so keen to join my project because they think
opensource makes it very hard to protect their ideas. I'll offer an
explanation of why it's feasible:
1) Firstly, the source code will be under a special license that *prohibits
* copying and modifying the source *except* under
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