Mentifex called; it wants its ASCII diagrams back.
-Chris
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Well ... I can take a shot at putting a diagram together. Making Mind Maps
is one way I learn any kind of material I want.
If the topics in the list(s) are descriptive enough, I can take a shot at
putting such a diagram together.
It'd be less work to correct it than to make one, right?
Hey -
Is there some kind of online software that lets a group of people
update a Mind Map
diagram collaboratively, in the manner of a Wiki page?
This would seem critical if a Mind Map is to really be useful for the purpose
you suggest...
-- Ben
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:32 AM, Aki Iskandar [EMAIL
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 7:19 PM, Vladimir Nesov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Certainly ambiguity (=applicability to multiple contexts in different
ways) and presence of rich structure in presumably simple 'ideas', as
you call it, is a known issue. Even interaction between concept clouds
evoked
Hi Ben,
I have a publisher who would love to publish the result of the wiki as a
textbook if you are willing.
Mark
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From: Ben Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: agi@v2.listbox.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 7:46 PM
Subject: [agi] Instead of an AGI
Ben,
Wikipedia has significant overlap with the topic list on the AGIRI Wiki. I
propose for discussion the notion that the AGIRI Wiki be content-compatible
with Wikipedia along two dimensions:
license - authors agree to the GNU Free Documentation Licenseeditorial
standards - Wikipedia says
Thanks Mark ... let's see how it evolves...
I think the problem is not finding a publisher, but rather, finding
the time to contribute and refine the content
Maybe in a year or two there will be enough good content there that
someone with appropriate time and inclination and skill can shape it
Hi Stephen,
Ben,
Wikipedia has significant overlap with the topic list on the AGIRI Wiki. I
propose for discussion the notion that the AGIRI Wiki be content-compatible
with Wikipedia along two dimensions:
license - authors agree to the GNU Free Documentation License
I have no problem with
Ben,
I just created an account on the wiki and created my user page derived from my
Wikipedia user page. Image uploads on the wiki work the same way as on
Wikipedia - Yay.
-Steve
Stephen L. Reed
Artificial Intelligence Researcher
http://texai.org/blog
http://texai.org
3008 Oak Crest Ave.
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Jim Bromer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I agreed with you up until your conclusion. While the problems that I
talked about may be known issues, they are discussed almost exclusively
using intuitive models, like we used, or by referring to ineffective models,
like
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Ben Goertzel wrote:
Is there some kind of online software that lets a group of people
update a Mind Map diagram collaboratively, in the manner of a Wiki page?
This would seem critical if a Mind Map is to really be useful for the purpose
you suggest...
On 3/26/08, Ben Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A lot of students email me asking me what to read to get up to speed on AGI.
Ben,
while we're on the topic, could you elaborate a bit on what kind of
prerequisite knowledge the books you've written/edited require? For
instance, I've been
A propos of the several branches of discussion about AGI textbooks on
this thread...
Knowing what I do about the structure and content of the book I am
writing, I cannot imagine it being merged as just a set of branch points
from other works, like the one growing from Ben's TOC.
What I
On 25/03/2008, Vladimir Nesov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
Simple systems can be computationally universal, so it's not an issue
in itself. On the other hand, no learning algorithm is universal,
there are always distributions that given algorithms will learn
miserably. The problem is to find a
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Vladimir Nesov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What you describe is essentially my own path up to this point: I
started with considering high-level capabilities and gradually worked
towards an implementation that seems to be able to exhibit these
high-level
2008/3/26 William Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 25/03/2008, Vladimir Nesov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
Simple systems can be computationally universal, so it's not an issue
in itself. On the other hand, no learning algorithm is universal,
there are always distributions that given
Fair enough, Richard...
Again I'll emphasize that the idea of the Instead of an AGI Textbook
is not to teach any particular theory or design for AGI, but rather to convey
background knowledge that is useful for folks who wish to come to grips
with contemporary AGI theories and designs
I have
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:47 PM, Jim Bromer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I do not know much about neural networks, but from what I read, I always
felt that a recurrent network would be the only way you could feasibly get
an ANN to represent (excuse my french) distinct items without absurdly huge
John G. Rose wrote:
From: Richard Loosemore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
My take on this is completely different.
When I say Narrow AI I am specifically referring to something that is
so limited that it has virtually no chance of becoming a general
intelligence. There is more to general
Before swatting at one of those pesky flies that come out as the days lengthen
and the temperature rises, one should probably think twice. A University of
Missouri researcher has found, through the study of Drosophila (a type of fruit
fly), that by manipulating levels of certain compounds
BTW I improved the hierarchical organization of the TOC a bit, to
remove the impression that it's just a random grab-bag of topics...
http://www.agiri.org/wiki/Instead_of_an_AGI_Textbook
ben
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Hi Mark,
Could you *please* not send HTML email? Ignoring that it is generally
considered poor netiquette, and for good reason, it frequently gets
turned into barely readable hash by even the most modern email clients.
I am using Mail.app 2.0 on OSX 10.5 which handles rendering better
:-) Now that is *funny* -- and polite -- especially after said ASCII diagrams
got so badly mangled (and I got flamed for using HTML e-mail -- which is even
more humorous ;-)
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From: Chris Petersen
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J. Andrew Rogers wrote:
Hi Mark,
Could you *please* not send HTML email? Ignoring that it is generally
considered poor netiquette, and for good reason, it frequently gets
turned into barely readable hash by even the most modern email clients.
I am using Mail.app 2.0 on OSX 10.5 which
First a riddle: What can be all learning algorithms, but is none?
A human being!
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On 26/03/2008, Mark Waser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
First a riddle: What can be all learning algorithms, but is none?
A human being!
Well my answer was a common PC, which I hope is more illuminating
because we know it well.
But human being works, as does any future AI design, as far as I am
OK... I just burned an hour inserting more links and content into
http://www.agiri.org/wiki/Instead_of_an_AGI_Textbook
I'm burnt out on it for a while, there's too much other stuff on my plate
However, I have a challenge for y'all
There are something like 400 people subscribed to this list...
Ah, one more note...
Due to its location on the AGIRI wiki, the Instead_of_an_AGI_Textbook
automatically links into the Mind Ontology
http://www.agiri.org/wiki/Mind_Ontology
that I created in a fit of mania one weekend a couple years ago.
So, just remember that if you decide to add content to
Hey Ben, I really appreciate this idea. I recently became very interested
in the Singularity, AI, etc. I very much enjoy the discussions that go on
in these threads, but rarely know what is going on. I'm really hoping to
learn everything there is to know from the ground up.
Matt
On Wed, Mar
Thanks Ben for leaving a placeholder for Fluid Construction Grammar. I've
copied over the Wikipedia article for which I wrote most of the content.
Cheers.
-Steve
Stephen L. Reed
Artificial Intelligence Researcher
http://texai.org/blog
http://texai.org
3008 Oak Crest Ave.
Austin, Texas, USA
From: Charles D Hixson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I don't think a General Intelligence could be built entirely out of
narrow AI components, but it might well be a relatively trivial add-on.
Just consider how much of human intelligence is demonstrably narrow AI
(well, not artificial, but you
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