Re: [agi] interesting Google Tech Talk about Neural Nets

2008-03-02 Thread eldras
Thanks for that. Dont you see the way to go on Neural nets is hybrid with genetic algorithms in mass amounts? eldras - Original Message - From: Kingma, D.P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: agi@v2.listbox.com Subject: [agi] interesting Google Tech Talk about Neural Nets Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008

Re: [agi] Thought experiment on informationally limited systems

2008-03-02 Thread eldras
Although top down should continue being researched tried, the complexity is still monumental. We KNOW that bottom up delivers AGI, and Turing's view was that heuristics are enough to build it. That is only doable at mass speeds assumed possible in eg quantum computing. eldras

Re: [agi] Goal Driven Systems and AI Dangers [WAS Re: Singularity Outcomes...]

2008-03-02 Thread eldras
interesting you're attempting that via goals, because goals will mutate; one alternative is to control the infrastructure eg have systems that die when they've run a certain course., and watcher systems that check mutations. - Original Message - From: Kaj Sotala [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [agi] interesting Google Tech Talk about Neural Nets

2008-03-03 Thread eldras
Care to state the exact problem you were having? My thought is scalability is to do entirely with speed availability - Original Message - From: Bob Mottram [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: agi@v2.listbox.com Subject: Re: [agi] interesting Google Tech Talk about Neural Nets Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008

Re: [agi] interesting Google Tech Talk about Neural Nets

2008-03-03 Thread eldras
that's a great idea Vlad, there are other forms of statistical sampling available. the closer we get to running accelerated evolution to human intelligence the better I beleive. - Original Message - From: Vladimir Nesov [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: agi@v2.listbox.com Subject: Re: [agi]