Although top down should continue being researched & tried, the complexity is still monumental.
We KNOW that bottom up delivers AGI, and Turing's view was that heuristics are enough to build it. That is only doable at mass speeds assumed possible in eg quantum computing. eldras > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "William Pearson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: agi@v2.listbox.com > Subject: Re: [agi] Thought experiment on informationally limited systems > Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 23:04:27 +0000 > > > On 02/03/2008, Mike Tintner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jeez, Will, the point of Artificial General Intelligence is that it can > > start adapting to an unfamiliar situation and domain BY ITSELF. And your > > FIRST and only response to the problem you set was to say: "I'll get > > someone > > to tell it what to do." > > Nothing we ever do is by ourselves, entirely, we have a wealth of > examples to draw from that we have acquired from family/friends and > teachers. The situation I described was like throwing a baby into a > completely unfamiliar problem, without the wealth of experience we > have built up over the years, so some hand holding is to be expected. > Also I'm not planning to have a full AI made any time soon, I'm merely > laying the ground work, for many other people to work upon. I may get > animal level adaptivity/intelligence myself, it depends how quickly I > can build the first layer and the tools I need for the next. > > This is also why I concentrate on the most flexible system possible, I > do not wish to constrain the system to do any more than needs be done > to achieve my current goal. This goal is to add a way of selecting > between the programs within a computer system dependent upon what the > system needs to do. > > It is more fundamental than your cross-over idea, in that it is a > lower level phenomenon, but not in the sense it is more important for > acting intelligently. > > > IOW you simply avoided the problem and thought only of cheating. What a > > solution, or merest idea for a solution, must do is tell me how that > > intelligence will start adapting by itself - will generalize from its > > existing skills to cross over domains. > > I'm not building the solution, merely a framework which I think will > enable people to build the solution. I think this needs to be done > first, in essence I am trying to deal with the "develop and acquire > skills" problem. > > Will Pearson > > ------------------------------------------- > agi > Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ > Modify Your Subscription: > http://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > -- Want an e-mail address like mine? Get a free e-mail account today at www.mail.com! ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: http://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=95818715-a78a9b Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
