Re: [agi] New KurzweilAI.net site... with my silly article sillier chatbot ;-p ;) ....
Have you guys talked to the army's artificial intelligence chat bot yet? http://sgtstar.goarmy.com/ActiveAgentUI/Welcome.aspx nothing really special other than the voice sounds really natural.. http://sgtstar.goarmy.com/ActiveAgentUI/Welcome.aspx On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Mike Archbold jazzbo...@gmail.com wrote: The concept of citizen science sounds great, Ben -- especially in this age. From my own perspective I feel like my ideas are good but it falls short always of the rigor of a proper scientist, so I don't have that pretense. The internet obviously helps out a lot.The plight of the solitary laborer is better than it used to be, I think, due to the availability of information/research. Mike Archbold On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 8:52 PM, Ben Goertzel b...@goertzel.org wrote: Check out my article on the H+ Summit http://www.kurzweilai.net/h-summit-harvard-the-rise-of-the-citizen-scientist and also the Ramona4 chatbot that Novamente LLC built for Ray Kurzweil a while back http://www.kurzweilai.net/ramona4/ramona.html It's not AGI at all; but it's pretty funny ;-) -- Ben -- Ben Goertzel, PhD CEO, Novamente LLC and Biomind LLC CTO, Genescient Corp Vice Chairman, Humanity+ Advisor, Singularity University and Singularity Institute External Research Professor, Xiamen University, China b...@goertzel.org “When nothing seems to help, I go look at a stonecutter hammering away at his rock, perhaps a hundred times without as much as a crack showing in it. Yet at the hundred and first blow it will split in two, and I know it was not that blow that did it, but all that had gone before.” --- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?; Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com --- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?; Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com -- Carlos A Mejia Taking life one singularity at a time. www.Transalchemy.com --- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244id_secret=8660244-6e7fb59c Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
Re: [agi] My Sing. U lecture on AGI blogged at Wired UK:
How was your overall experience there, anything you learn that is worth mentioning? On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Ben Goertzel b...@goertzel.org wrote: http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2010-07/9/singularity-university-robotics-ai --- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?; Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com -- Carlos A Mejia Taking life one singularity at a time. www.Transalchemy.com --- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244id_secret=8660244-6e7fb59c Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
Re: [agi] My Sing. U lecture on AGI blogged at Wired UK:
Their earthly based internet probably has been downgrade to allow more bandwidth for the interplanetary internet ;-) On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Ben Goertzel b...@goertzel.org wrote: I gave the lecture via Skype from my house in Maryland I learned that NASA has a crap Internet connection 8-D On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 2:50 PM, The Wizard key.unive...@gmail.com wrote: How was your overall experience there, anything you learn that is worth mentioning? On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Ben Goertzel b...@goertzel.org wrote: http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2010-07/9/singularity-university-robotics-ai --- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?; Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com -- Carlos A Mejia Taking life one singularity at a time. www.Transalchemy.com *agi* | Archives https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ | Modifyhttps://www.listbox.com/member/?;Your Subscription http://www.listbox.com -- Ben Goertzel, PhD CEO, Novamente LLC and Biomind LLC CTO, Genescient Corp Vice Chairman, Humanity+ Advisor, Singularity University and Singularity Institute External Research Professor, Xiamen University, China b...@goertzel.org I admit that two times two makes four is an excellent thing, but if we are to give everything its due, two times two makes five is sometimes a very charming thing too. -- Fyodor Dostoevsky *agi* | Archives https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ | Modifyhttps://www.listbox.com/member/?;Your Subscription http://www.listbox.com -- Carlos A Mejia Taking life one singularity at a time. www.Transalchemy.com --- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244id_secret=8660244-6e7fb59c Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
Re: [agi] Questions for an AGI
I really think using email alone decreases our efficiency, therefore I suggest we use other methods in conjunction to email to maximize our interactions. I also realize we have attempted the forum thing to very little success, but how about this. Ive created a document that we can all edit, lets try to grab the what we think are some key points from this thread and or others and attempt to organize the our inputs. Creating documents could help elevate the conversation into realms yet to be explored for the simple fact of everyone retracing what has been said. Just a thought... IN either case this is how I take notes.. https://docs.google.com/document/edit?id=1lYoFXTdXshlPutY1zTi0-m9nl7Oh8OfKIgGuQfQG0aMhl=en On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Travis Lenting travlent...@gmail.comwrote: What do you class as enhancement? I'm not talking about shoes making us run faster I'm talking about direct brain interfacing that significantly increases a persons intelligence that would allow them to out smart us all for their own good. The idea of the Singularity is that AGI enhances itself. Hence a singularity *without* AGI is a contradiction in terms. Does it really need to be able to figure out anything though? Can it not just be more narrow in focus? Could it just understand itself without being able to say, figure out how to navigate an RC through an obstacle course, could this AI still start a self improvement cycle? I did not quite get you syntax on reproduction I don't trust reproduction machines (lifeforms) because even if they are social animals its only cause its best for themselves. So don't model it after a brain is basically all I'm saying. On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 6:42 AM, Ian Parker ianpark...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 June 2010 22:21, Travis Lenting travlent...@gmail.com wrote: I don't like the idea of enhancing human intelligence before the singularity. What do you class as enhancement? Suppose I am in the Middle East and I am wearing glasses which can give a 3D data screen. Somebody speaks to me. Up on my glasses are the possible translations. Neither me nor the computer system understands Arabic, yet together we can achieve comprehension. (PS I in fact did just that with http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AQIg8QuzTONQZGZxenF2NnNfNzY4ZDRxcnJ0aHIhl=en_GB ) I think crime has to be made impossible even for an enhanced humans first. If our enhancement was Internet based it could be turned off if we were about to commit a crime. You really should have said unenhanced humans. If my conversation (see above) was about jihad and terrorism AI would provide a route for the security services. I think you are muddled here. I think life is too adapt to abusing opportunities if possible. I would like to see the singularity enabling AI to be as least like a reproduction machine as possible. Does it really need to be a general AI to cause a singularity? The idea of the Singularity is that AGI enhances itself. Hence a singularity *without* AGI is a contradiction in terms. I did not quite get you syntax on reproduction, but it is perfectly true that you do not need a singularity for a Von Neumann machine. The singularity is a long way off yet Obama is going to leave Afghanistan in 2014 leaving robots behind. Can it not just stick to scientific data and quantify human uncertainty? It seems like it would be less likely to ever care about killing all humans so it can rule the galaxy or that its an omnipotent servant. AGI will not have evolved. It will have been created. It will not anyway have the desires we might ascribe to it. Scientific data would be a high priority but you could *never* be exclusively scientific. If human uncertainty were quantified that would give it, or whoever wielded it immense power. There is one other eventuality to consider - a virus. If an AGI system was truly thinking and introspective, at least to the extent that it understood what it was doing, a virus would be impossible. Software would in fact be self repairing. GT makes a lot of very silly translations. Could I say that no one in Mossad or any dictator ever told me how to do my French homework. Trivial and naive remark, yet GT is open to all kinds of hacking. True AGI would not by definition. This does in fact serve to indicate how far off we are. - Ian Parker On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 11:39 AM, The Wizard key.unive...@gmail.comwrote: This is wishful thinking. Wishful thinking is dangerous. How about instead of hoping that AGI won't destroy the world, you study the problem and come up with a safe design. Agreed on this dangerous thought! On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Matt Mahoney matmaho...@yahoo.comwrote: This is wishful thinking. Wishful thinking is dangerous. How about instead of hoping that AGI won't destroy the world, you study the problem and come up with a safe design. -- Matt Mahoney, matmaho...@yahoo.com
Re: [agi] Questions for an AGI
This is wishful thinking. Wishful thinking is dangerous. How about instead of hoping that AGI won't destroy the world, you study the problem and come up with a safe design. Agreed on this dangerous thought! On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Matt Mahoney matmaho...@yahoo.com wrote: This is wishful thinking. Wishful thinking is dangerous. How about instead of hoping that AGI won't destroy the world, you study the problem and come up with a safe design. -- Matt Mahoney, matmaho...@yahoo.com -- *From:* rob levy r.p.l...@gmail.com *To:* agi agi@v2.listbox.com *Sent:* Sat, June 26, 2010 1:14:22 PM *Subject:* Re: [agi] Questions for an AGI why should AGIs give a damn about us? I like to think that they will give a damn because humans have a unique way of experiencing reality and there is no reason to not take advantage of that precious opportunity to create astonishment or bliss. If anything is important in the universe, its insuring positive experiences for all areas in which it is conscious, I think it will realize that. And with the resources available in the solar system alone, I don't think we will be much of a burden. I like that idea. Another reason might be that we won't crack the problem of autonomous general intelligence, but the singularity will proceed regardless as a symbiotic relationship between life and AI. That would be beneficial to us as a form of intelligence expansion, and beneficial to the artificial entity a way of being alive and having an experience of the world. *agi* | Archives https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ | Modifyhttps://www.listbox.com/member/?;Your Subscription http://www.listbox.com *agi* | Archives https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ | Modifyhttps://www.listbox.com/member/?;Your Subscription http://www.listbox.com -- Carlos A Mejia Taking life one singularity at a time. www.Transalchemy.com --- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244id_secret=8660244-6e7fb59c Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
[agi] AGI Alert: DARPA wants quintillion-speed computers
http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/62808 http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/62808Self aware system software, including operating system, runtime system, I/O system, system management/administration, resource management and means of exposing resources, and external environments -- Carlos A Mejia Taking life one singularity at a time. www.Transalchemy.com --- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244id_secret=8660244-6e7fb59c Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
[agi] Re: AGI Alert: DARPA wants quintillion-speed computers
Omnipresent High Performance Computing (OHPC) initiative) Seriously DARPA we already get it. ;-) On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 1:22 PM, The Wizard key.unive...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/62808 http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/62808Self aware system software, including operating system, runtime system, I/O system, system management/administration, resource management and means of exposing resources, and external environments -- Carlos A Mejia Taking life one singularity at a time. www.Transalchemy.com -- Carlos A Mejia Taking life one singularity at a time. www.Transalchemy.com --- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244id_secret=8660244-6e7fb59c Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
[agi] Questions for an AGI
If you could ask an AGI anything, what would you ask it? -- Carlos A Mejia Taking life one singularity at a time. www.Transalchemy.com --- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244id_secret=8660244-6e7fb59c Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
Re: [agi] Questions for an AGI
I would ask the agi What should I ask an agi On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 4:56 AM, Florent Berthet florent.bert...@gmail.comwrote: Tell me what I need to know, by order of importance. *agi* | Archives https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ | Modifyhttps://www.listbox.com/member/?;Your Subscription http://www.listbox.com -- Carlos A Mejia Taking life one singularity at a time. www.Transalchemy.com --- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244id_secret=8660244-6e7fb59c Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
