Re: [agi] Advocacy Is no Excuse for Consciousness

2008-10-17 Thread John LaMuth
: Colin Hales [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: agi@v2.listbox.com Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 3:14 AM Subject: Re: [agi] Advocacy Is no Excuse for Consciousness John LaMuth wrote: Colin Consc. by nature is subjective ... Can never prove this in a machine -- or other human beings for that matter

Re: [agi] Advocacy Is no Excuse for Consciousness

2008-10-17 Thread Eric Burton
Good to see someone is still up. Can you link your paper again? I can't find the URL. Eric B --- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription:

Re: [agi] Advocacy Is no Excuse for Consciousness

2008-10-15 Thread Colin Hales
John LaMuth wrote: Colin Consc. by nature is subjective ... Can never prove this in a machine -- or other human beings for that matter Yes you can. This is a fallacy. You can prove it in humans and you can prove it in a machine. You simply demand it do science. Not simple - but possible. I

Re: [agi] Advocacy Is no Excuse for Consciousness

2008-10-14 Thread John LaMuth
Colin Consc. by nature is subjective ... Can never prove this in a machine -- or other human beings for that matter We are underutilizing about 4 Billion + human Cons's on the earth today What goal -- besides vanity -- is there to simulate this mechanically ?? We need to simulate