Re: [agi] Shhh!

2010-08-03 Thread deepakjnath
for {set i 0} {$i infinity} {incr i} { print $i } On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Jim Bromer jimbro...@gmail.com wrote: I can write an algorithm that is capable of describing ('reaching') every possible irrational number - given infinite resources. The infinite is not a number-like object,

Re: [agi] Walker Lake

2010-08-03 Thread Samantha Atkins
Matt Mahoney wrote: Steve Richfield wrote: How about an international ban on the deployment of all unmanned and automated weapons? How about a ban on suicide bombers to level the playing field? 1984 has truly arrived. No it hasn't. People want public surveillance. Guess I am not people

Re: [agi] Walker Lake

2010-08-03 Thread tintner michael
Samantha: please note that full surveillance means no successful rebellion no matter how bad the powers that be become and how ineffectual the means that let remain legal are to change things. Ever I totally agree that surveillance will become ever more massive - because it has v. positive as

Re: [agi] Walker Lake

2010-08-03 Thread Steve Richfield
Matt, On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 4:56 AM, tintner michael tint...@blueyonder.co.ukwrote: I totally agree that surveillance will become ever more massive - because it has v. positive as well as negative benefits. But people will find ways of resisting and evading it - they always do. And it's

Re: [agi] Re: Shhh!

2010-08-03 Thread Jim Bromer
I meant transfinite. Thank you for correcting me on that. However, your suggestion to post when I actually solve the problem is one of the most absurd comments I have ever seen in these groups given the absolute necessity of posting about AI-related ideas that have yet to be solved, and

Re: [agi] Shhh!

2010-08-03 Thread Jim Bromer
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 3:34 AM, deepakjnath deepakjn...@gmail.com wrote: for {set i 0} {$i infinity} {incr i} { print $i } That's the basic idea, except there are one and a half axes, positive integers, negative integers and fractional parts for all possible irrational numbers. (Well it

Re: [agi] Computer Vision not as hard as I thought!

2010-08-03 Thread A. T. Murray
David Jones wrote: I've suddenly realized that computer vision of real images is very much solvable and that it is now just a matter of engineering. [...] Would you (or anyone else on this list) be interested in learning Forth and working on http://code.google.com/p/mindforth/wiki/VisRecog

Re: [agi] Walker Lake

2010-08-03 Thread Matt Mahoney
Samantha Atkins wrote: No it hasn't. People want public surveillance. Guess I am not people then. Then why are you posting your response to a public forum instead of replying by encrypted private email? People want their words to be available to the world. I don't think the global brain

Re: [agi] Walker Lake

2010-08-03 Thread Matt Mahoney
Steve Richfield wrote: Disaster scenarios aside, what would YOU have YOUR AGI do to navigate this future? It won't be my AGI. If it were, I would be a despot and billions of people would suffer, just like if any other person ruled the world with absolute power. We will be much better off if