Re: [agi] Context free text analysis is not a proper method of natural language understanding

2007-10-03 Thread Matt Mahoney
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Relating to the idea that text compression (as demonstrated by general > compression algorithms) is a measure of intelligence, > Claims: > (1) To understand natural language requires knowledge (CONTEXT) of the > social world(s) it refers to. > (2) Communication inclu

Re: [agi] Context free text analysis is not a proper method of natural language understanding

2007-10-03 Thread Vladimir Nesov
... or maybe they can be inferred from texts alone. It all depends on learning ability of particular design, and we as yet have none. Cart before the horse. On 10/3/07, Bob Mottram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 03/10/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Given (1), no context-fr

Re: [agi] Context free text analysis is not a proper method of natural language understanding

2007-10-03 Thread Bob Mottram
On 03/10/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Given (1), no context-free analysis can understand natural language. > Given (2), no adaptive agent can learn (proper) understanding of natural > language given only texts. > For human-like understanding, an AGI would need to participat

[agi] Context free text analysis is not a proper method of natural language understanding

2007-10-03 Thread m1n1mal
Relating to the idea that text compression (as demonstrated by general compression algorithms) is a measure of intelligence, Claims: (1) To understand natural language requires knowledge (CONTEXT) of the social world(s) it refers to. (2) Communication includes (at most) a shadow of the context nece