Re: Lojban (was Re: [agi] constructivist issues)

2008-10-23 Thread Mark Waser
, 2008 9:23 PM Subject: Lojban (was Re: [agi] constructivist issues) Why would anyone use a simplified or formalized English (with regular grammar and no ambiguities) as a path to natural language understanding? Formal language processing has nothing to do with natural language

Re: Lojban (was Re: [agi] constructivist issues)

2008-10-23 Thread Matt Mahoney
--- On Thu, 10/23/08, Mark Waser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi.  I don't understand the following statements.  Could you explain it some more?   - Natural language can be learned from examples. Formal language can not. I really mean that formal languages like C++ and HTML are not designed to

Re: Lojban (was Re: [agi] constructivist issues)

2008-10-22 Thread Ben Goertzel
[Usual disclaimer: this is not the approach I'm taking, but I don't find it stupid] The idea is that by teaching an AI in a minimally-ambiguous language, one can build up its commonsense understanding such that it can then deal with the ambiguities of natural language better, using this

Re: Lojban (was Re: [agi] constructivist issues)

2008-10-22 Thread Trent Waddington
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Matt Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So how does yet another formal language processing system help us understand natural language? This route has been a dead end for 50 years, in spite of the ability to always make some initial progress before getting stuck.