RE: [agi] An Artificial General Intelligence in the Making

2003-02-03 Thread Ben Goertzel
Title: Message




Mapping NL into logical format is very hard; the hard 
part is not choosing the textual representation of the logic, the hard part is 
have the computer program understand the natural language in the first 
place!!!

Yeah, 
I do have some ideas on how this could be accomplished, but they involve 
building a whole AGI and then teaching it language ;-)

In 
fact, I plan to use a variant of KNOW to help teach Novamente English... by 
saying the same things to it in KNOW and English in parallel, one can help it 
learn the semantic mappings of simple English sentences.

ben


  
  
  The KNOW 
  document Ben posted a link too says:
  
  "Syntax to 
  semantics mapping in the natural language module, in which the final result 
  should be represented in this language;"
  
  This kind of 
  capabilities would certainly be a huge advance over something like ARFF. 
  If anyone works with ARFF, could he or she comment on the possibilities of 
  such translation with the ARFF grammar? Does anyone who's familiar with 
  the technical workings of knowledge representation language have any idea on 
  how this kind of mapping could be accomplished? 
  
  
  -Daniel
  *Daniel 
  ColonneseComputer Science Dept. NCSU2718 Clark 
  StreetRaleigh NC 27670Voice: (919) 451-3141Fax: 
  (775) 361-4495http://www4.ncsu.edu:8030/~dcolonn/* 
  
  

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
Gus ConstanSent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 8:12 
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Artificial General Intelligence in the Making
Hi 
Ben;
Would you kindly 
provide a valid url for Knowledge Representation for 
Inference
in your 
reference document www.goertzel.org/papers/KNOWSpecification.htm

thanks

Gus




Re: [agi] An Artificial General Intelligence in the Making

2003-02-03 Thread Shane Legg

Daniel,

An ARFF file is just a collection of n-tuple data items where each tuple
dimension has defined type information.  It also has a dimension that
is marked as being the class of the data item.  So because it's
basically just a big table of data you could in theory put any kind of
information you like in there provided that you are a little creative
in the encoding.

However while you could do something like that with an ARFF file it
probably doesn't make much sense.  ARFF files carry with them the
implicit assumption that the data items are more or less i.i.d. and
that you suspect that there is some sort of explicit relationship
between the dimensions; in particular you usually are interested in
the abilty to predict the class dimension using the other dimensions.
This is how Weka classifiers interpret the files.

So in short:  I'm sure you could jam KNOW data into an Arff file but
I don't really see why doing so would make much sense.

Cheers
Shane

Daniel Colonnese wrote:

For those of us who are following the KNOW thread, could somebody 
comment on the capabilities of KNOW beyond existing knowledge 
representation language such as the ARFF format for the popular WEKA system.
 
I've input data into such a system before and while existing systems 
have extensive grammar for representing logical relations they have very 
limited capabilities for more ambiguous  knowledge.
 
The KNOW document Ben posted a link too says:
 
Syntax to semantics mapping in the natural language module, in which 
the final result should be represented in this language;
 
This kind of capabilities would certainly be a huge advance over 
something like ARFF.  If anyone works with ARFF, could he or she comment 
on the possibilities of such translation with the ARFF grammar?  Does 
anyone who's familiar with the technical workings of knowledge 
representation language have any idea on how this kind of mapping could 
be accomplished? 
 
-Daniel



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RE: [agi] An Artificial General Intelligence in the Making

2003-01-31 Thread Ben Goertzel




Hi,

A 
much, muchnicer overview of the Novamente system will be online in about 2 
weeks -- we're putting on the finishing touches!

As for 
the KNOW system, an old KNOW document is online at

www.goertzel.org/papers/KNOWSpecification.htm 


This is also in 
an appendix to my book "Creating Internet Intelligence" (Plenum, 
2001).

A newer, slightly 
differentversion exists but isn't being distributed yet (not cuz it's 
private, just cuz it's too rough...)

-- 
Ben

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  General Intelligence in the MakingNearly 
  finished reading "An Artificial General Intelligence in the Making" Ben 
  Goertzel, et. al. (Lost the link, because I saved it to my local 
  HD.)My general impression - a good document with lots of well thought 
  out concepts. Wish that I'd run into it a year or so ago - it would have 
  saved me more than a little research and mental gymnastics. There are a 
  few concepts that I'll probably *eventually* borrow to add to my ongoing 
  Rogue-AI project (if and when days ever become longer than just 24 
  hours, so that I have the time to do so.)Is there more information 
  about KNOW available anywhere? You never can tell - there might come a 
  day when your AI and my AI want to have a conversation. :)===bob 
  briggs