2009/5/12 Roger Hicks pidge...@gmail.com:
15. (Rating=3, Owner=null) A War-rule whose rating is less than 2 may
not repeal or modify the text, ownership, rating, or number of
any section.
I thought sections were a remnant from an old version that had been removed..
--
-Tiger
Hmm... Isn't just two notes too little? But then again, just having a
lower quorum does not help passing a proposal that people are opposed
to, so maybe not.
2009/5/13 Quazie quazieno...@gmail.com:
I submit the following proposal entitled Voting 3rds AI = 2
proposal
Append the following on to
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 02:45, Jonatan Kilhamn
jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/5/12 Roger Hicks pidge...@gmail.com:
15. (Rating=3, Owner=null) A War-rule whose rating is less than 2 may
not repeal or modify the text, ownership, rating, or number of
any section.
I thought sections were a
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 07:13, Quazie quazieno...@gmail.com wrote:
I submit the following proposal entitled Voting 3rds AI = 2
proposal
Append the following on to R2126 after the paragaph that begins with (9)
(10) A player may spend two notes forming a major third to increase
Quorum on an
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Roger Hicks pidge...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 07:13, Quazie quazieno...@gmail.com wrote:
I submit the following proposal entitled Voting 3rds AI = 2
proposal
Append the following on to R2126 after the paragaph that begins with (9)
(10) A
Quazie wrote:
6294 IADoP Must Announce FAILED QUORUM O 1.0 1 Yally
6295 Enough already D 2.0 1 comex
PRESENT
Please don't do this (throw in a no vote comment instead). Due to my
quote-collapse add-on for Thunderbird, I almost recorded this as a
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Quazie quazieno...@gmail.com wrote:
If they should be limited then so should points 7 and 8 which up voting power.
Voting limit is already capped at 8 by R, and at 1 for democratic
decisions. Raising quorum would make it fairly cheap to kill even an
Quazie wrote:
a) Default Officehater. If the Default Officehater is the
holder of an office, then that office is considered vacant. The
Default Officehater can not perform the duties of any office.
Meaning anyone can deputise for it by announcement.
b) Justiciarless. If the
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote:
c) Wielder of Un-Veto. The Wielder of Un-Veto CAN un-veto an ordinary
decision in its voting period by announcement; this decreases
its Adoption Index by 1.
Meaning it will generally fail even
Wooble wrote:
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote:
c) Wielder of Un-Veto. The Wielder of Un-Veto CAN un-veto an ordinary
decision in its voting period by announcement; this decreases
its Adoption Index by 1.
Meaning it will
On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 15:56 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote:
On Tue, 12 May 2009, Alex Smith wrote:
On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 13:18 -0700, Taral wrote:
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 3:06 AM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote:
I appeal the question on culpability. At the time, I was aware of the
Libel
On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 19:07 -0500, Aaron Goldfein wrote:
I see this proposal not as a way for me to be a jackass, but to reveal
a part of the game as flawed. Scamming is something that is very
intricate in the game, and as a result it should be expected that
someone would submit a proposal
2009/5/13 Quazie quazieno...@gmail.com:
Create a rule entitled Bizzarogora with the following text:
On the 13th of each month Agora enters into a state known as
Bizzarogora in which many things we knew to be true suddenly
weren't.
29th feb plz
On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 09:30 -0400, Quazie wrote:
a) Default Officehater. If the Default Officehater is the
holder of an office, then that office is considered vacant. The
Default Officehater can not perform the duties of any office.
Make sure this doesn't interrupt X Months Long
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote:
These elections are failing quorum and will soon have to have their voting
periods extended if enough votes are not cast:
CotC(Arnold Bros (est. 1905), Murphy, Wooble), fails by one vote.
Anarchist(coppro, Quazie,
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote:
There are currently at least two or three endorsements of Wooble in
the Tailor election. I would ask those endorsers to vote conditionally
if Wooble does not, I would encourage Wooble to vote, and I would
encourage the Wielder
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 9:51 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
Oh bribery proposals are cute. It's a good test every so often to see
if the current players are a group of voters you want to be playing a game
with. And deregistration is good test to use as, whichever the answer,
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote:
There are currently at least two or three endorsements of Wooble in
the Tailor election. I would ask those endorsers to vote conditionally
if Wooble
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote:
Ah, you're right, I was conufsing this with the Assessor election,
which is regarding a vacant office and thus needs to be completed;
whereas the resolution of this election is relatively immaterial.
Accountor; Assessor isn't
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote:
Ah, you're right, I was conufsing this with the Assessor election,
which is regarding a vacant office and thus needs to be completed;
whereas the
On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 20:14 +0200, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote:
Player Key Last change
---
ais523 D Feb 2009
I'm pretty sure I changed Key more recently than this...
--
ais523
On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 20:48 +0200, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote:
2009/5/13 Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk:
On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 15:35 +0100, Alex Smith wrote (in agora-business):
I flip my Key to G.
I CoE against the latest Conductor's Report; my key is G, not D. My Note
holdings shown are also
2009/5/13 Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk:
On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 20:48 +0200, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote:
2009/5/13 Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk:
On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 15:35 +0100, Alex Smith wrote (in agora-business):
I flip my Key to G.
I CoE against the latest Conductor's Report; my key is G,
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote:
On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 20:48 +0200, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote:
2009/5/13 Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk:
On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 15:35 +0100, Alex Smith wrote (in agora-business):
I flip my Key to G.
I CoE against the latest
Taral wrote:
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 9:51 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
Oh bribery proposals are cute. It's a good test every so often to see
if the current players are a group of voters you want to be playing a game
with. And deregistration is good test to use as, whichever
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote:
Taral wrote:
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 9:51 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu
wrote:
Oh bribery proposals are cute. It's a good test every so often to see
if the current players are a group of voters you want to
2009/5/13 Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@googlemail.com:
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote:
Taral wrote:
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 9:51 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu
wrote:
Oh bribery proposals are cute. It's a good test every so often to
To read your reply on an iPhone I have to scroll down several screens,
and even a desktop client without quote folding must, I think, page
down once or twice. Nothing against you in particular, but can people
be a little more careful in trimming quotes? (I'm sure top-posting
sans trim can
2009/5/13 comex com...@gmail.com:
To read your reply on an iPhone I have to scroll down several screens, and
even a desktop client without quote folding must, I think, page down once or
twice. Nothing against you in particular, but can people be a little more
careful in trimming quotes? (I'm
On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 12:45 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote:
A player CAN flip a specified proposal to Distributable
with 2 Support, or by spending one Note.
A player CAN flip a specified proposal to Undistributable
with 4 Support, or by spending two Notes.
It
On Wed, 13 May 2009, Alex Smith wrote:
On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 12:45 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote:
A player CAN flip a specified proposal to Distributable
with 2 Support, or by spending one Note.
A player CAN flip a specified proposal to Undistributable
with 4 Support, or
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote:
On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 12:45 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote:
A player CAN flip a specified proposal to Distributable
with 2 Support, or by spending one Note.
A player CAN flip a specified proposal to
On Wed, 13 May 2009, Quazie wrote:
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote:
On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 12:45 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote:
A player CAN flip a specified proposal to Distributable
with 2 Support, or by spending one Note.
A player CAN flip
Quazie wrote:
If we are bringing back distributability, i'm going to try to bring
back cards. The issue is that cards need to be a core part of the
rules or they can't have the power to change things like these
switches. Is there any way that a contest could currently flip a
switch like
On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 13:00 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote:
On Wed, 13 May 2009, Alex Smith wrote:
On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 12:45 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote:
A player CAN flip a specified proposal to Distributable
with 2 Support, or by spending one Note.
A player CAN flip a
On Wed, 13 May 2009, Ed Murphy wrote:
Quazie wrote:
If we are bringing back distributability, i'm going to try to bring
back cards. The issue is that cards need to be a core part of the
rules or they can't have the power to change things like these
switches. Is there any way that a
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
On Wed, 13 May 2009, Quazie wrote:
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote:
On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 12:45 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote:
A player CAN flip a specified proposal to
On Wed, 13 May 2009, Alex Smith wrote:
Well, the problem is if the proposal's been flipped to undistributable
with 4 support, it could be flipped back with 2 support, which is weird
to say the least. Maybe it should need 6 support to reflip it back, and
likewise the notes should go 1 to flip,
On Wed, 13 May 2009, Quazie wrote:
Care to re-proto that? Or send the proto just to me and I'll help you
deal (HA pun) with the card rules?
If I can find it I will. -G.
On Wed, 13 May 2009, Kerim Aydin wrote:
On Wed, 13 May 2009, Quazie wrote:
Care to re-proto that? Or send the proto just to me and I'll help you
deal (HA pun) with the card rules?
If I can find it I will. -G.
By the way, I really, really, really, really don't think that Cards
and Notes
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
On Wed, 13 May 2009, Kerim Aydin wrote:
On Wed, 13 May 2009, Quazie wrote:
Care to re-proto that? Or send the proto just to me and I'll help you
deal (HA pun) with the card rules?
If I can find it I will. -G.
By
Goethe wrote:
On Wed, 13 May 2009, Kerim Aydin wrote:
On Wed, 13 May 2009, Quazie wrote:
Care to re-proto that? Or send the proto just to me and I'll help you
deal (HA pun) with the card rules?
If I can find it I will. -G.
By the way, I really, really, really, really don't think that
On Wed, 13 May 2009, Ed Murphy wrote:
Goethe wrote:
On Wed, 13 May 2009, Kerim Aydin wrote:
On Wed, 13 May 2009, Quazie wrote:
Care to re-proto that? Or send the proto just to me and I'll help you
deal (HA pun) with the card rules?
If I can find it I will. -G.
By the way, I really,
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
I protoed the following July 17 2008, there were many comments
(including from you Quazie ;) ) but I never followed up with an
amended version.
This is an updated proto though? Yes?
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
A
play of a backbencher card with a target player in the same
party as emself, unless the exploit on the card explicitly
allows this.
huh?
Any player holding a Government card is a
member of
2009/5/13 Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu:
The Party of a card class may be one of Government, Opposition,
or Backbencher.
Typo.
Title: Cabinet Secretary.
Position: The Party Secretary may make any ordinary proposal
democratic by announcement unless there is less
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote:
On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 11:46 -0600, Sean Hunt wrote:
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com
wrote:
These elections are failing quorum and will soon have to have their
voting
periods
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com
wrote:
These elections are failing quorum and will soon have to have their
voting
periods extended if enough votes are not cast:
CotC(Arnold Bros
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
On Wed, 13 May 2009, Taral wrote:
I guess I'm a little touchy right now because the game has been very
chaotic recently.
I submit the
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 2:35 PM, comex com...@gmail.com wrote:
I agree to the following contract:
Looks good. I'd like to see something like this:
If a player votes KILL on a Motion, eir vote is counted as a vote
AGAINST that Motion. Additionally, if the Motion passes, then:
a) If that player
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Taral tar...@gmail.com wrote:
If a player votes KILL on a Motion, eir vote is counted as a vote
AGAINST that Motion. Additionally, if the Motion passes, then:
a) If that player has no pending Offers, then e ceases to become a
party to the contract at the same
On Wed, 13 May 2009, Quazie wrote:
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
I protoed the following July 17 2008, there were many comments
(including from you Quazie ;) ) but I never followed up with an
amended version.
This is an updated proto though?
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 2:54 PM, comex com...@gmail.com wrote:
Hmm. As long as the vote collector (currently the initiator of the
motion, by default) is required to prominently mention who left, I'm
okay with it, although I don't think it's very likely that a Terrible
Motion will pass.
True.
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 3:20 PM, comex com...@gmail.com wrote:
Proto: Just my opinion
Opinion: s/one paragraph/100 words/
--
Taral tar...@gmail.com
Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you.
-- Unknown
Kerim Aydin wrote:
I protoed the following July 17 2008, there were many comments
(including from you Quazie ;) ) but I never followed up with an
amended version.
Proto-Proposal: the Return of cards.
For now, lays out a framework for cards and changes prerogatives
to cards, since
On May 12, 2009, at 6:39 PM, Geoffrey Spear wrote:
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Benjamin Schultz
ke...@verizon.net wrote:
On May 12, 2009, at 6:03 PM, Ed Murphy wrote:
Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2485
== Equity Case 2485
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Benjamin Schultz ke...@verizon.net wrote:
Would there be significant opposition to me handing down a ruling directing
the ALS to wind up its affairs and disband?
Not from me.
Roger Hicks wrote:
Based loosely upon B-Nomic's Field, and other similar nomic constructs
of the past. Please comment and/or join. Note that the provision in
the second paragraph should permit me to patch obvious issues I may
have overlooked without having to continually revise/rejoin. I agree
This message is intended to be public according to the rules of Agora Nomic.
A public message is a message sent via a public forum, or sent
to all players and containing a clear designation of intent to
be public. A person publishes or announces something by
sending a
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 6:20 PM, comex com...@gmail.com wrote:
Proto: Just my opinion
[It seems to me that a lot of voters read a proposal, decide whether
they like the intent of it, and vote based on that, without
remembering potentially important criticisms (or praise!) levied by
other
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Elliott Hird
penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote:
This message is intended to be public according to the rules of Agora
Nomic.
A public message is a message sent via a public forum, or sent
to all players and containing a clear designation of
Ed Murphy wrote:
*6233 D0 2.0 Yally Cleaning Rule 2179
6226 6227 6228 6229 6230 6231 6232 6233 6234 6235
ais523F F A F F A A F F F
Arnold Br P P A F A F A F A F
comex F
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:10 PM, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote:
Ed Murphy wrote:
*6233 D0 2.0 Yally Cleaning Rule 2179
6226 6227 6228 6229 6230 6231 6232 6233 6234 6235
ais523F F A F F A A F F F
Arnold Br
Aaron Goldfein wrote:
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:10 PM, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com
mailto:ride...@gmail.com wrote:
Ed Murphy wrote:
*6233 D0 2.0 Yally Cleaning Rule 2179
6226 6227 6228 6229 6230 6231 6232 6233 6234 6235
ais523
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:56 PM, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote:
Manuel Lanctot wrote:
I register.
~Manu
I award Manu a White Ribbon.
Fails, this is not the first time Manu has registered.
Geoffrey Spear wrote:
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:56 PM, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote:
Manuel Lanctot wrote:
I register.
~Manu
I award Manu a White Ribbon.
Fails, this is not the first time Manu has registered.
Oh, really? My bad.
On 2009-05-14, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote:
Geoffrey Spear wrote:
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:56 PM, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote:
Manuel Lanctot wrote:
I register.
~Manu
I award Manu a White Ribbon.
Fails, this is not the first time Manu has registered.
Oh, really? My bad.
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