Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Warranty

2020-01-19 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 1/19/2020 7:09 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > The vast majority of thesis publications I’ve seen are either legal or > historical. If anything, this is exactly the sort of thing that shouldn’t > qualify for a J.N. IMO, it’s about public policy, not rule interpretation. To me

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Warranty

2020-01-19 Thread Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion
On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 at 22:13, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I was about to re-reply to say, I don't mind expanding the scope of J.D. at > all! just that it might warrant some discussion first and it was worth > mentioning the original intent. > I

DIS: Re: BUS: Warranty

2020-01-19 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 1/19/2020 7:05 PM, Alexis Hunt via agora-business wrote: > Ahh, in this case I'll withdraw the intent for now so it can be further > discussed. But the thinking I had was that the degree is analagous to the > Juris Doctor conferred to law school graduates who can subsequently go into >

DIS: Re: BUS: Warranty

2020-01-19 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
The vast majority of thesis publications I’ve seen are either legal or historical. If anything, this is exactly the sort of thing that shouldn’t qualify for a J.N. IMO, it’s about public policy, not rule interpretation. -Aris On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 7:05 PM Alexis Hunt via agora-business <

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Player cleanup

2020-01-19 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 1/19/2020 6:40 PM, Gaelan Steele via agora-business wrote: > I create the following proposal: { > Title: Deregistration > AI: 3 > Author: Gaelan > > Flip the Citizenship of the following players to Unregistered: > - D. Margaux > - Baron von Vaderham > } > > [They’re both inactive, but

DIS: Re: BUS: Warranty

2020-01-19 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 6:21 PM Alexis Hunt via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 at 20:42, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-business < > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > What I will not do, barring sufficiently persuasive arguments to the > >

DIS: Re: BUS: Warranty

2020-01-19 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
Okay, that was astonishingly convincing. I’m not going to change my personal approach to scams (at the very least ones that use my official position; I don’t think I’ve ever stated on record that I’ll never write a scam proposal, though I’ve also scrupulously avoided doing so). However, you have

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [Herald] Weekly Report

2020-01-19 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 1/19/2020 4:38 PM, Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion wrote: > On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 at 19:28, Kerim Aydin via agora-business < > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: >> [I'm gonna generally retire from attempting to keep things equal after >> this, >> others can if they like.] >> > > Well, I

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [Herald] Weekly Report

2020-01-19 Thread Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion
On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 at 19:28, Kerim Aydin via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > On 1/19/2020 1:35 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > On 1/19/2020 1:33 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > >> +7 G. <= SHOGUN > >> +6 Aris > > > > I pledge to equalize these next week, if no one

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Warranty

2020-01-19 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 4:20 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > > > On 1/19/2020 3:29 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote: > > Twg, can we have the same warranty (in public, to be clear) from you? > > I phrased it so that it works the same way even with your whole zombie > >

DIS: Re: BUS: Warranty

2020-01-19 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 1/19/2020 3:29 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote: > Twg, can we have the same warranty (in public, to be clear) from you? > I phrased it so that it works the same way even with your whole zombie > thing; so you don't need to change any words at all. :) If you don't, > I intend to

Re: DIS: Proto-proto: Findings of Law & Fact

2020-01-19 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 4:06 PM Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 at 18:52, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > My gut feeling is that this is a bit overcomplicated. There are too > > many categories. Additionally, I

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal dump

2020-01-19 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 1/19/2020 3:04 PM, Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion wrote: > On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 at 10:40, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-business < > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> Amend Rule 217, "Interpreting the Rules", by inserting "authorial >> intent," after "past judgements,". >> > >

Re: DIS: Theses in the Agoran Context: A Query

2020-01-19 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 1/19/2020 2:57 PM, Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion wrote: > The best way is to look at past examples. > > On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 at 17:43, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> What exactly are the expectations for theses? It's not very well >>

Re: DIS: Proto-proto: Findings of Law & Fact

2020-01-19 Thread Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion
On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 at 18:52, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > My gut feeling is that this is a bit overcomplicated. There are too > many categories. Additionally, I dislike this sort of pragmatization. > The generally platonic model has served Agora

DIS: [Promotor] Draft

2020-01-19 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
Here's a draft. The actual report will be about a day late; I sincerely apologize for my tardiness, and I hope the extra day won't cause significant trouble. Given how big this distribution has turned out to be, I don't feel comfortable sending this out without a draft to catch errors. -Aris ---

Re: DIS: Proto-proto: Findings of Law & Fact

2020-01-19 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
My gut feeling is that this is a bit overcomplicated. There are too many categories. Additionally, I dislike this sort of pragmatization. The generally platonic model has served Agora well the vast majority of the time. I don't have extended reasoning here, those are just my initial reactions.

Re: DIS: Proto-proto: Findings of Law & Fact

2020-01-19 Thread Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion
On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 at 14:14, Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > Here's some outline I was thinking to move us towards a more pragmatic > model of law: > Any opinions? Buehler? Agora

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal dump

2020-01-19 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion
Alexis wrote: > > Amend Rule 217, "Interpreting the Rules", by inserting "authorial > > intent," after "past judgements,". > > Quite opposed; this would require judges to read mailing lists to determine > intent. Fair enough! Like I said, mostly there to provoke discussion. Would you feel

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal dump

2020-01-19 Thread Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion
On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 at 10:40, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > Amend Rule 217, "Interpreting the Rules", by inserting "authorial > intent," after "past judgements,". > Quite opposed; this would require judges to read mailing lists to determine

Re: DIS: Theses in the Agoran Context: A Query

2020-01-19 Thread Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion
The best way is to look at past examples. On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 at 17:43, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > What exactly are the expectations for theses? It's not very well > spelled out in the relevant rule (probably something we should fix). > I'm

Re: DIS: [Proto] Deputisation timeliness

2020-01-19 Thread Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion
On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 at 17:16, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 1/18/20 11:07 PM, Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion wrote: > > Ah, I see where we were thinking differently. Yes, I think your idea > works > > then, so long as it happens earlier in the

DIS: Theses in the Agoran Context: A Query

2020-01-19 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
What exactly are the expectations for theses? It's not very well spelled out in the relevant rule (probably something we should fix). I'm working on a thesis, on and off, and I want to make sure I'm doing it right. -Aris

Re: DIS: [Proto] Deputisation timeliness

2020-01-19 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 1/18/20 11:07 PM, Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion wrote: > Ah, I see where we were thinking differently. Yes, I think your idea works > then, so long as it happens earlier in the week before the officer > publishes the report and the obligation is live. Once the report is > published, the

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Apathy

2020-01-19 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 1/19/2020 1:45 PM, James Cook via agora-business wrote: > Sigh. My message stated the wrong method (with notice rather than > without objection). I withdraw the CFJ I just called. Drat - it would have been a good one!! I was about to send the following gratuitous: As part of my Arbitor

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Apathy

2020-01-19 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 1/19/2020 1:36 PM, James Cook via agora-business wrote: > I sent my notice of intent to the players of Agora in two steps: > first, through myself, and then, through agora-business in this > message. So, I have sent it via both myself and a public forum. Since > it was sent via a public

DIS: Re: BUS: blatant Lime bait

2020-01-19 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion
Alexis wrote: > Repeal rule 2603 or provide a manner for determining the office's holder, > as there's currently no way for that office to be held. R1006, last para. It's meant to be a penalty for proposal authors who define switches without specifying who, if anybody, should track them. > Amend