Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ: Rule 2226

2009-08-10 Thread Ed Murphy
Pavitra wrote: Aaron Goldfein wrote: I CFJ on the following sentence. When a judge with judicial rank 0 has eir judgement overruled on appeal, then it is decreased by 1 and e CANNOT increase it for 30 days afterward. Incidentally, this CFJ is trivially FALSE because R2226 says if the prior

Re: DIS: Question

2009-08-10 Thread Ed Murphy
ehird wrote: On Tuesday, August 11, 2009, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote: Elliott Hird wrote: What is the Bill of Attainder proposal's purpose? To get angry at me for my attempted Grand Poobah scam. -coppro Classy. When you try to scam an office, you should expect reprisals, esp.

Re: DIS: Archives?

2009-08-09 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: Roger Hicks wrote: I can't seem to reach the agoranomic.org archives, but it appears the lists are still working. Anyone else having this issue? BobTHJ Negative. I just tested the a-o archive and it gave me the first message from this month without complaint.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2656a assigned to coppro, c-walker, G.

2009-08-09 Thread Ed Murphy
Goethe wrote: On Sun, 9 Aug 2009, Sean Hunt wrote: Appeal 2656a Panelist: coppro Decision: Panelist: c-walker Decision: Panelist: G.

DIS: Re: BUS: proto-judgement

2009-08-09 Thread Ed Murphy
G. wrote: == CFJ 2651 == If I don't receive 15 objections, it will be POSSIBLE for me to indirectly cause a Rule Change using Contract A. JUDGE'S

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2656a assigned to coppro, c-walker, G.

2009-08-09 Thread Ed Murphy
G. wrote: On Sun, 9 Aug 2009, comex wrote: On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 3:18 AM, Kerim Aydinke...@u.washington.edu wrote: AOL! n.b. this is ineffective (CFJ 1536) -- -c. I argue that the existence of CFJ 1536 has made it known enough. For example, AGAINT is an understandable-enough typo but

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJs

2009-08-09 Thread Ed Murphy
G. wrote: On Sun, 9 Aug 2009, comex wrote: Whereas it is easiest to obtain a reasonable and consistent judgement when various facets of the issue are examined independently, I call for judgement on each of the following statements: * Causing a rule to act counts as altering it. * Using a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Some NoVs

2009-08-08 Thread Ed Murphy
BobTHJ wrote: On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 15:17, Ed Murphyemurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Admitted, but OTOH it isn't a frequent error (most weeks see the same quorum as the previous week, and most proposals achieve quorum by a comfortable margin). That said, I'll see about revamping the system

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Proposals 6414 - 6420 are failing quorum

2009-08-08 Thread Ed Murphy
Ed Murphy wrote: coppro wrote: Ed Murphy wrote: Quorum8 8 8 8 8 8 8 Voters7 7 7 7 7 6 7 CoE: At the time of the initiation of this decision, there were 21 active players (see the Census published near-concurrently); two

DIS: Re: BUS: [Janitor] Cleanup Proposals

2009-08-08 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: Poweriffic Cleanup (AI=3, II=0) {{{ Amend Rule 1728 by replacing A person CAN perform a dependent action authorized by a contract as if that contract were a rule, provided that the above requirements are otherwise met, and that the effects of that

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Deputy Promotor] Distribution of Proposal 6406

2009-08-08 Thread Ed Murphy
comex wrote: On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Sean Huntride...@gmail.com wrote: This distribution of proposal 6406 initiates the Agoran ... Proposal 6403 (Democratic, AI=2.0, Interest=1) by c-walker Proposal Tweaking Part 2.1 Which proposal is the real 6406? That one was declared

DIS: Quorum reporting

2009-08-08 Thread Ed Murphy
The Assessor DB now tracks the times of events affecting quorum (I back-populated it through July 27 or so, enough to confirm that it got the right results for 6414-20). I also fixed a bug where it wasn't excluding deregistered players (the effects of which were less obvious because many such

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Some NoVs

2009-08-08 Thread Ed Murphy
comex wrote: Why can't we just have an interface that - is open-source (so we know what's going on, and can replicate it to another server if the original one goes down), I've adjusted my server to make nightly tarballs of the PHP scripts, which anyone is free to mirror off-site. The only

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Some NoVs

2009-08-08 Thread Ed Murphy
I wrote: Ironically, I managed to stomp two scripts (fortunately minor ones, cotc/notes.php and cotc/case_count.php) in the process of debugging the syntax... case_count.php is reconstructed (and includes appeals, which it didn't previously). notes.php is reconstructed and renamed to

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6421-6425

2009-08-07 Thread Ed Murphy
comex wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Geoffrey Speargeoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: NUM C I AI SUBMITTER TITLE 6421 D 1 4.0 Pavitra Great Cthulhu AGAINT Cute.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6421-6425

2009-08-07 Thread Ed Murphy
comex wrote: 6421 D 1 4.0 Pavitra Great Cthulhu AGAINT Note to new players: AGAINT has acquired a more-or-less permanent taint of ambiguity due to http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=1260 http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=1261

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: Proposals 6414 - 6420 are failing quorum

2009-08-07 Thread Ed Murphy
G. wrote: When do you plan to resolve 6406-6409 (apologies if I missed them). They were resolved about half an hour ago.

DIS: Re: BUS: Activity

2009-08-07 Thread Ed Murphy
c-walker wrote: Can someone tell me how the Absolv-o-matic thing ended? Do I still have a rest? Recently fixed by Proposal 6409. Yes, I think so.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: An unconventional way to create a rule

2009-08-07 Thread Ed Murphy
comex wrote: On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 12:44 AM, Kerim Aydinke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Thu, 6 Aug 2009, comex wrote: I CFJ on the statement: If I don't receive 15 objections, it will be POSSIBLE for me to indirectly cause a Rule Change using Contract A. I favor this case. -G. Can you

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Scammity Scam Scam

2009-08-07 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: A very broken system. As the criminal rules are written, you don't even need to actually believe you were in the right, it just needs to be reasonable for you to have done so. I completely support criminal reform (N.B. my reform proposal would not have repaired this error) as

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 6407 - 6409

2009-08-07 Thread Ed Murphy
BobTHJ wrote: Actually, I retract this. I don't see where the Assessor has a weekly report (or am I missing something?). If so then Murphy got some extra deals out of this (which isn't a big deal, but makes a difference going forward). No, eir report is entirely monthly. Eir non-report

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Some NoVs

2009-08-07 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: Roger Hicks wrote: On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 14:10, Sean Huntride...@gmail.com wrote: I intend, with Support, to publish an NoV alleging that ais523 violated the 1-power Rule 2143 by failing to report the Recognition switch during the month of July. I intend, with 2 Support, to

DIS: Re: OFF: [Insulator] Rest Report

2009-08-06 Thread Ed Murphy
BobTHJ wrote: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:36 - NOV #3 - coppro accuses coppro of rule/crime R2168 with a severity of 1 because: Anarchist election notice Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:36 - coppro closes NOV #3, 1 rests created in coppro's possession Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:36 - coppro plays Absolv-o-Matic to

Re: DIS: Straw Poll: agora-actions

2009-08-06 Thread Ed Murphy
Sgeo wrote: On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Kerim Aydinke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, comex wrote: On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Kerim Aydinke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Non-recordkeepors, however, won't. Actually, it will be a positive pain for recordkeepors (searching

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: What a panda does

2009-08-06 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: Warrigal wrote: My voting limit on an ordinary decision initiated at this time would exceed the combined voting limits of all other players on that decision. I intend, with support, to publish an NoV accusing Warrigal of violating the 2-power Rule 2215 by publishing the quoted

DIS: Re: BUS: An unconventional way to create a rule

2009-08-06 Thread Ed Murphy
comex wrote: Note that Rule 1728 takes precedence over Rule 2140 (Power Controls Mutability), so any issue of the power of the contract is moot. No, it isn't moot. Rule 1728 pretends that the contract is a rule, but it doesn't pretend that it has Power 0.

Re: DIS: Re: DIS: Re: DIS: Re: BUS: ฉันลง ทะเบียน

2009-08-05 Thread Ed Murphy
ehird wrote: 2009/8/4 yuri_dragon_17 yd17.ag...@gmail.com: comex wrote: 2009/8/4 yuri_dragon_17 yd17.ag...@gmail.com: yuri_dragon_17 wrote: ฉันลงทะเบียน Some players suggested that to make things easier I should register unambiguously. So, I register.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: rulekeepor's notes on proposals 6403-6413

2009-08-05 Thread Ed Murphy
BobTHJ wrote: On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 15:38, Sean Huntride...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Pavitracelestialcognit...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like to reopen my not-really-a-proposal to split a-b into two mailing lists. One would be a high-signal list where contentful actions

Re: DIS: Straw Poll: agora-actions

2009-08-05 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: I hereby initiate a Straw Poll to decide whether or not the Distributor should add another forum (tentatively with the name agora-business) to the agoranomic.org lists, and the Registrar should s/business/actions/ subsequently make it Public. The valid options are FOR, AGAINST,

Re: DIS: Straw Poll: agora-actions

2009-08-05 Thread Ed Murphy
Pavitra wrote: As a supplement/alternative, what would people think of criminalizing large numbers of public messages -- say, 8 or 16 per person per week? It wouldn't platonically cancel any messages, and it should encourage people to lump their actions together. On the other hand, it might

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: ©Ñ¹Å§·ÐàºÕ ¹

2009-08-03 Thread Ed Murphy
Wooble wrote: 2009/8/3 yuri_dragon_17 yd17.ag...@gmail.com: ©Ñ¹Å§·ÐàºÕ¹ According to Google translate, Thai for I register. Gratuitous arguments for the CFJ: I was unable to verify this claim.

DIS: Re: BUS: Registration

2009-08-02 Thread Ed Murphy
Edmond Dantes wrote: I register. Hi, do you have a preferred nickname? I have no idea what's going on. Here's a copy of the greeting I sent JonnyRotten earlier today: Welcome to the Agoran community! http://agoranomic.org/ offers a good set of initial pointers, here are a few

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration

2009-08-02 Thread Ed Murphy
G. wrote: On Sun, 2 Aug 2009, Ed Murphy wrote: Please let us know what additional questions you have. Was there a reference to your recent FAQ and ais523's thesis in these links? (I missed them if there were). -G. Nope, here they are: http://www.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Deputy Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6414-6420

2009-07-31 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: 6415 O 1 1.0 Wooble So much for that FOR x 12 Your voting limit is back to 8 (unless I missed a card play).

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: intent, NoV

2009-07-31 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: I spend an Absolve-o-matic (sp) to destroy a Rest in my own possession. TTttPF As a few of us have recently found out, Absolv-o-Matic is ineffective because its rule has too low Power to satisfy securing of Rest changes.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: end of month card dump

2009-07-31 Thread Ed Murphy
G. wrote: On Fri, 31 Jul 2009, Geoffrey Spear wrote: On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Kerim Aydinke...@u.washington.edu wrote: 1. Caste is also secured-2 so no dice. Well, playing the cards ineffectually to get them out of my hand works too. R2256 is pretty clear here: If the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [AAA] Secretary of Agriculture Report

2009-07-31 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: Roger Hicks wrote: coppro 6 5 8 5 1 4 3 9 5 17 3 1 I mill 0 - 7 = 4. I mill 9 - 3 = 6. I mill 7 * 4 = 6. I harvest 2643 for 2 WRVs. I harvest 2637 for 2 WRVs. I harvest 2639 for 2 WRVs. I harvest 2638 for 2 WRVs. I harvest 955 for 8

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: intent, NoV

2009-07-31 Thread Ed Murphy
Wooble wrote: On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Kerim Aydinke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Fri, 31 Jul 2009, ais523 wrote: Fails, Absolve-o-matics are broken atm. -- ais523 I think quorum is such that you could fix it personally by voting FOR 6409 right now (and if you feel like it,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: end of month card dump

2009-07-31 Thread Ed Murphy
ais523 wrote: genuine paradoxes (e.g. the 'paradox win', which strangely appears to have no attached CFJ (were the relevant rules different back then), about assigning Goethe to CFJ 1596; just because there are two Yes, per http://agora.qoid.us/rule/2110 (side note: messy, evidently

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2622 assigned to Pavitra

2009-07-31 Thread Ed Murphy
Pavitra wrote: I don't see what's wrong with these arguments. It seems perfectly straightforward to me. Can someone direct me to the explanation of why this is wrong? Whatever was pointed out to coppro was apparently not done on either a-b or a-d; possibly it occurred in ##nomic.

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Deputy Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6414-6420

2009-07-31 Thread Ed Murphy
comex wrote: At the extreme, I remember watching the creation, under a scamming organization called the cabal, of a fake sub-cabal as a way to trick other players into participating in a scam believing they were participating in a different one. Which scam was that?

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6403-6405

2009-07-30 Thread Ed Murphy
Taral wrote: On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Geoffrey Speargeoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: NUM C I AI SUBMITTER TITLE 6403 D 1 3.0 coppro Your Presence is Requested FOR 6404 D 0 2.0 Murphy Fix expedited recusal FOR 6405 D 3 3.0 coppro

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals 6403-06 are failing quorum

2009-07-30 Thread Ed Murphy
C-walker wrote: I vote as follows a number of times equal to my voting limit on each decision: [snip] 6406 D2 2.0 c-walkerProposal Tweaking Part 2.1 FOR Ineffective, you already did so before.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of Proposals 6410-6413

2009-07-30 Thread Ed Murphy
Taral wrote: 6412 O 1 1.0 allispaul A Standard Standard AGAINSTx3 I have your caste recorded as 2.

DIS: Card automation

2009-07-29 Thread Ed Murphy
This is going in the right direction: http://nomic.bob-space.com/agoralog.aspx?contract=All%20Decks Recommendations to make this reasonably usable: * Add as of date near the top * Allow adding player=Murphy for the obvious effect * Include inline descriptions of what each card does

Re: DIS: Card automation

2009-07-29 Thread Ed Murphy
G. wrote: On Wed, 29 Jul 2009, Ed Murphy wrote: Proto-proto: Replace pending draws with Chips, which can then be traded per the usual currency rules. Noo. Why not?

Re: DIS: What is wrong with you all?

2009-07-29 Thread Ed Murphy
ehird wrote: 2009/7/29 ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk: It isn't my website, and I hate it too. The issue is that there's no easy legal way to get all the data off it, due to Wikidot's terms of service (recently amended to say that you can't try to get rid of that annoying banner at the

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals 6403-06 are failing quorum

2009-07-27 Thread Ed Murphy
Quazie wrote: I vote present on proposals 6403-6406 if possible. It isn't, you were inactive when they were distributed. You'll be able to vote again starting with 6414.

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2638, 2640 assigned to Quazie

2009-07-27 Thread Ed Murphy
Quazie wrote: On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Ed Murphyemurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2638 Am i certainly active at this point? if i'm not, can i be a judge? I think you are, but you should re-announce it without pseudocode to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No Cookie Jar awards this week

2009-07-27 Thread Ed Murphy
ais523 wrote: On Sat, 2009-07-25 at 20:47 +0100, C-walker wrote: On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 8:43 PM, ais523callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On Fri, 2009-07-24 at 15:22 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote: No one submitted a guess within the required timeframe. I intend, without 3 objections, to flip

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Janitor] Cleanup Proposals

2009-07-24 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: Ed Murphy wrote: coppro wrote: Patent Title Security Cleanup (AI=1.5, II=0) {{{ Amend Rule 649 (Patent Titles) by replacing Awarding or revoking a Patent Title by Proposal is a secured change. with Awarding or revoking a Patent Title can only be done by a proposal with power

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Janitor] Cleanup Proposals

2009-07-24 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: Ed Murphy wrote: That's how it works now. Awarding or revoking a Patent Title by means other than a proposal is (by omission) not secured, and thus governed only by the earlier sentence. My interpretation is that the intent is not to secure patent titles but rather to make

Re: DIS: Poobah bye-bye proto

2009-07-24 Thread Ed Murphy
G. wrote: On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Ed Murphy wrote: G. wrote: None were particularly compelling. Like Notes, the overhead of choosing one's location etc. was just More Trouble Than It Was Worth. It's not that your proto is bad, it's just that it's similar and for some reason, the past ones

DIS: Note to economic automators

2009-07-24 Thread Ed Murphy
All proposals recorded as resolved within the past two weeks: http://zenith.homelinux.net/assessor/notes.php All judicial cases recorded as judged on time within the past two weeks: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/notes.php Despite the repeal of Notes, these may continue to be generally

Re: DIS: Poobah bye-bye proto

2009-07-23 Thread Ed Murphy
G. wrote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009, Roger Hicks wrote: No, really. The grid in this case would just be for visual representation, and wouldn't really need to be a grid at all (forget any previous poor execution of a grid in other not-to-be-named nomics - B) Agora has had three grids since 2001

DIS: Re: BUS: [Janitor] Cleanup Proposals

2009-07-23 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: Patent Title Security Cleanup (AI=1.5, II=0) {{{ Amend Rule 649 (Patent Titles) by replacing Awarding or revoking a Patent Title by Proposal is a secured change. with Awarding or revoking a Patent Title can only be done by a proposal with power 1.5 or greater. [This change,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Cookie Jar

2009-07-22 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: I guess 3 proposals and 11 CFJs NttPF

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Greetor, Grand Poobah, Registrar election resolutions

2009-07-20 Thread Ed Murphy
c-walker wrote: On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Elliott Hirdpenguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: 2009/7/20 C-walker charles.w.wal...@googlemail.com: C-walker Statements made in this message may or may not be false I think this is nullifying all your messages; don't we have precedent on

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Public Review for new Rule

2009-07-20 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: Note, however, that there is actually another possibility here: that the rule actuall restricts all communications and thus failed due to AIAN (see ##nomic logs for in-depth discussion; it's a DF so I shouldn't have to repeat what was said there). I don't think this defense

DIS: Re: BUS: Public Review for new Rule

2009-07-19 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: Explanation: Distributed Proposal 6402 enacts a new Rule Acting on Behalf that says Acting on behalf of (syn. send messages on behalf of) a person (the grantor) with a specified message is equivalent to sending a public message authored by the grantor. Equivalence, as used in

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Public Review for new Rule

2009-07-19 Thread Ed Murphy
ais523 wrote: On Sun, 2009-07-19 at 16:34 -0400, Geoffrey Spear wrote: On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 4:23 PM, ais523callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Ineffective, CoEs have to be done publically, which is secured at power 3, and no sufficiently powerful rule lets you do that. I Say This Is The

DIS: Re: BUS: [Cookie Jar] Report

2009-07-18 Thread Ed Murphy
c-walker wrote: I guess 9 proposals and 12 CFJs for this week. Ineffective, too late in the week.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Cookie Jar] Report

2009-07-18 Thread Ed Murphy
c-walker wrote: Murphy wrote: c-walker wrote: I guess 9 proposals and 12 CFJs for this week. Ineffective, too late in the week. I guess 9 proposals and 12 CFJs for the next week in which I can guess. That doesn't work either.

DIS: Re: BUS: Cookie Jar awards

2009-07-17 Thread Ed Murphy
Wooble wrote: I guess 6 proposals, 9 CFJs Invalid, guesses must now be in by the end of Friday (UTC).

Re: DIS: Card delays (and attn BobTHJ)

2009-07-16 Thread Ed Murphy
BobTHJ wrote: On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 19:04, comexcom...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Roger Hickspidge...@gmail.com wrote: Can I supply a hefty bribe from my nonexistent pot of currency to make sure that the new system is as little like the previous one as possible?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: well, we know he was in a hurry...

2009-07-16 Thread Ed Murphy
G. wrote: On Thu, 16 Jul 2009, Geoffrey Spear wrote: I come off hold. I Form a Government as follows: I go on hold. I come off hold. I Form a Government as follows: Ooh, that's a nice little bug. And a sum of unintended consequences rather than just a straightforward bad card proposal

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2631 assigned to c.

2009-07-16 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: Roger Hicks wrote: On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 14:08, comexcom...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Taraltar...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Roger Hickspidge...@gmail.com wrote: I intend (with 2 support) to appeal. A request to set a rule AI to

Re: DIS: Murphy, can we strike a deal?

2009-07-14 Thread Ed Murphy
Sgeo wrote: Maybe a contract allowing me to gain some benefit from your win? I was initially thinking maybe I could sometimes act on your behalf to use the power of whatever position card you gain, but you already have a position card.. Maybe I could transfer you my existing position card

Re: DIS: A Facebook Nomic

2009-07-14 Thread Ed Murphy
Sgeo wrote: http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=21692852114ref=ts Might we want to open relations with them? Looks like they've been inactive for a couple months, and for some long stretches before that as well.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2606 assigned to Taral

2009-07-13 Thread Ed Murphy
c-walker wrote: On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:08 AM, Taraltar...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 12:08 AM, Ed Murphyemurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: == Equity Case 2606 == I accidentally published the list of what contracts are what and

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Position Cards

2009-07-10 Thread Ed Murphy
Wooble wrote: On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 2:41 AM, Kerim Aydinke...@u.washington.edu wrote: The Speaker CAN form a government this quarter if e desires. H. Assessor Murphy, is there any chance you could fix http://zenith.homelinux.net/assessor/similarity.php to make it easier to reward people

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-07-10 Thread Ed Murphy
c-walker wrote: I CFJ {{ The Conductor CAN publish a self-ratifying report. }} Evidence: R2126 states: The Conductor is an office. As soon as possible after this text becomes a part of this rule, the Conductor SHALL publish a self-ratifying report containing the

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Tailor] Still No Witty Name Report

2009-07-09 Thread Ed Murphy
Sgeo wrote: On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Ed Murphyemurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Sgeo wrote: On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 2:13 AM, Sean Huntride...@gmail.com wrote: Murphy ROGCBK MUVIY 11 How much would Murphy be willing to give me in order for me to name em as my

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Crime Proposal

2009-07-07 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: Kerim Aydin wrote: On Tue, 7 Jul 2009, Geoffrey Spear wrote: On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 2:17 AM, Sean Huntride...@gmail.com wrote: A player CAN publish a Notice of Violation (with N support, I've never liked this bit. Unless the Distributor blocks me, I CAN publish whatever

DIS: Re: BUS: A surprising deregistration

2009-07-06 Thread Ed Murphy
Wooble wrote: On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 4:20 PM, C-walkercharles.w.wal...@googlemail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Geoffrey Speargeoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: I'm treating this as ineffective (game custom to the contrary notwithstanding), and I publish an NoV alleging that C-walker

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: IADoP Poobah

2009-07-06 Thread Ed Murphy
G. wrote: On Mon, 6 Jul 2009, ais523 wrote: On Mon, 2009-07-06 at 15:15 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Mon, 6 Jul 2009, ais523 wrote: On Mon, 2009-07-06 at 11:12 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: I deputize for the IADOP to initiate an Agoran Decision to determine the new officeholder of the Grand

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: IADoP Poobah

2009-07-06 Thread Ed Murphy
ais523 wrote: Cretans doesn't hold here, the rule doesn't claim precedence over itself. (Maybe it should be generalised to all self-contradictions?) The current holder here is interesting; my reading is holder at the time of vote collecting. It doesn't seem ridiculously counter-common-sense

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2610a assigned to Rodlen, coppro, Pavitra

2009-07-05 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: On Sunday, July 5, 2009, Benjamin Caplan celestialcognit...@gmail.com wrote: I opine REMAND in CFJ 2510a, in order to allow the judge to consider the further arguments that have been advanced since e published eir original judgement. As do I, deferring to Pavitra's arguments.

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2606 assigned to Taral

2009-07-03 Thread Ed Murphy
ais523 wrote: On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 00:08 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote: Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2606 == Equity Case 2606 == This omits my gratuitous arguments (that it would be more equitable to keep the total

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2605 assigned to ehird

2009-07-03 Thread Ed Murphy
teucer wrote: music-currency [which can only mean Notes, in this context] to .kreig. [which is the Lojban form of my real name, and the name by which I am known in the Lojban community], who is .tefkros. [my preferred Lojbanization of teucer, based on the original Greek form of said name,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJs (attn Tanner Swett, ais523, Wooble)

2009-07-02 Thread Ed Murphy
ais523 wrote: On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 12:53 -0400, comex wrote: I rotate the bench. I believe you just violated the public contract (2008-11-22-ehird) by rotating the bench without intending to mislead others as to the pointless conceptual games indulged in by mistake; but I'm not a party

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2606 assigned to Taral

2009-07-02 Thread Ed Murphy
Taral wrote: Would anyone care to propose a reasonable settlement? It seems like nobody really minded -- the game just started over. Mistakes happen. Null judgement. If any party does mind, they can appeal.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJs (attn Tanner Swett, ais523, Wooble)

2009-07-02 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: On Thursday, July 2, 2009, Roger Hicks pidge...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 08:32, Geoffrey Speargeoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Elliott Hirdpenguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: Bahahahaha! I initiate an equity case regarding that

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [LPRS] Null Pointer

2009-07-01 Thread Ed Murphy
compsciguy wrote: Checked the short and full rulesets, and I can't find it anywhere. What is the LPRS? A fair amount of gameplay is governed by contracts rather than rules. In this case, see http://agora-notary.wikidot.com/lesser-points-relay-service

DIS: Re: BUS: An action

2009-06-29 Thread Ed Murphy
Warrigal wrote: I act on behalf of ə to register ə. I figured out how to get this into the database, but why does http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/status.php (newly modified to specify charset=utf-8 rather than charset=iso-8859-1) render it incorrectly by default? Here's the main part of the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Cookie Jar awards

2009-06-29 Thread Ed Murphy
c-walker wrote: I guess 8 CFJs for the next week for which I haven't already guessed. NttPF. Murphy, does the proposal guessing system work by the number submitted or the number distributed? 4) The distribution of a proposal is a point-worthy event (counting at most 5 proposals per author

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PNP may be dead

2009-06-29 Thread Ed Murphy
ehird wrote: 2009/6/29 Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com: I object. Activity is needed because, in the case of non-embassy But what about Fnord!

Re: DIS: Firmer Card draft

2009-06-26 Thread Ed Murphy
G. wrote: On Sat, 27 Jun 2009, Paul VanKoughnett wrote: On a partially-related note, all elections should include a VACANT option. Or perhaps only if someone 'nominates' it? Vacant-option with 3 support? EMPTY THRONE Why? What if this happened to e. g. the Promotor? On one hand it's

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The Grid

2009-06-24 Thread Ed Murphy
allispaul wrote: First, you want to flip the contract's *Disclosure*, not *Publicity*, to Public. I CFJ {The Grid's Disclosure has been flipped.} NttPF

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: What a coincidence...

2009-06-24 Thread Ed Murphy
G. wrote: On Tue, 23 Jun 2009, Sean Hunt wrote: Kerim Aydin wrote: On Tue, 23 Jun 2009, Ed Murphy wrote: coppro wrote: I initiate an election for Conductor, nominating myself (and grumbling). I haven't read the Cards proto yet; will it allow the equivalent of Conductor to be split among

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 6355 - 6376

2009-06-24 Thread Ed Murphy
Yally wrote: Any player CAN, by announcement, initiate an election for a specified elected office that is vacant, or for which no election has been initiated in the preceding 90 days, or at any time if e is the IADoP for which no election is already in progress.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6355-6376

2009-06-24 Thread Ed Murphy
ais523 wrote: On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 08:29 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote: G. wrote: On Tue, 23 Jun 2009, Geoffrey Spear wrote: 6372 D 1 2.0 G. Transition Team AGAINST I'm a little puzzled by opposition to this (not just on your part, other voters too...) is there a bug I'm

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2610 judged TRUE by allispaul

2009-06-24 Thread Ed Murphy
G. wrote: On Wed, 24 Jun 2009, Ed Murphy wrote: Judge allispaul's Arguments: Importantly, a valid Notice of Violation has the effects it describes. CFJ 2481 and the associated cases are of note here: though the NoV's in question were certainly incorrect, they were valid and had the effect

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 6355 - 6376

2009-06-24 Thread Ed Murphy
Yally wrote: On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Alex Smithais...@bham.ac.uk wrote: On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 10:19 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote: On 6369, c-walker endorsed the contestmaster who awarded the most points in May. By my count, the totals by contest were xy contest 29 36 3

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2574 assigned to Taral

2009-06-24 Thread Ed Murphy
G. wrote: On Wed, 24 Jun 2009, Ed Murphy wrote: Appeal 2574a Panelist: G. Decision: OVERRULE/FALSE Panelist: Quazie Decision

DIS: Re: BUS: The Grid

2009-06-23 Thread Ed Murphy
c-walker wrote: There exists a 2D Grid which consists of 10,000 Squares from (0, 0) to (100, 100). There is a Square switch called Colour with possible Off-by-one error. Also, previous large grids have suffered from players failing to move near each other; a small grid would leave them little

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6355-6376

2009-06-23 Thread Ed Murphy
G. wrote: On Tue, 23 Jun 2009, Geoffrey Spear wrote: 6372 D 1 2.0 G. Transition Team AGAINST I'm a little puzzled by opposition to this (not just on your part, other voters too...) is there a bug I'm missing? Because to me this one seemed like a straightforward this

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Victory awards and Ministerial State

2009-06-23 Thread Ed Murphy
G. wrote: On Mon, 22 Jun 2009, Kerim Aydin wrote: MINISTERS WITHOUT PORTFOLIO comex27-Feb-09 - Speaker OscarMeyr24-Mar-09 ais5236-Apr-09 coppro3-May-09

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Victory awards and Ministerial State

2009-06-23 Thread Ed Murphy
I wrote: Wooble kicks out comex (longest MWoP) For reference, Wooble deputised to award emself MWoP in a-b on Wed, 20 May 2009 21:50:04 -0400; root deregistered May 26. Tiger kicks out root (deregistered) Murphy kicks out OscarMeyr (inactive) comex kicks out ais523 (longest MWoP),

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Quorum Bumping

2009-06-23 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: For each Agoran Decision to adopt a proposal on which Pavitra has not yet voted, I act on eir behalf to cast the vote that an endorsement of me would evaluate to if the election were to finish right now. For each Agoran Decision to adopt a proposal on which c-walker has not

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