On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On the other hand, we *are* trying to model a "fair" judicial system, so
>> bribery for judges is a different (i.e. more frowned-upon) matter.
>
> I'
On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 13:25 -0600, Roger Hicks wrote:
> I believe such actions would be interesting to experiment with here in
> Agora. I strongly believe such actions should not be experimented with
> at the State or Federal level of a world superpower.
Well, B Nomic has Oracularities, which is so
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Haven't you followed modern american judicial proceedings? The law be
>> damned. Legislation from the bench is the new politically correct
>> wave. It
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 12:56 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008, Elliott Hird wrote:
>> 2008/6/30 Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>> Haven't you followed modern american judicial proceedings?
>
> Religiously (ooh, bad word choice). I'd agree with you if you say t
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I'm working on a proto that brings back the three-tiered Ordinary->
>> Democratic -> Sane. Along with cards. Stay tuned. But yes, I fully
>> agree that there should *always* be a
2008/6/30 Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Religiously (ooh, bad word choice)
Somehow I think the "dead persons = people" debate will go that way.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] death
ehird
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Haven't you followed modern american judicial proceedings? The law be
> damned. Legislation from the bench is the new politically correct
> wave. It is a convenient way to override the inconvenient majority.
Not to turn thi
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm working on a proto that brings back the three-tiered Ordinary->
> Democratic -> Sane. Along with cards. Stay tuned. But yes, I fully
> agree that there should *always* be a high-powered "safe mode" that is a
> straigh
2008/6/30 Sgeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I fully support legislative play for ordinary decisions, but not
> democratic decisions. As far as I'm concerned, the point of the
> distinction is to have a playground for decisions on things that won't
> completely change things, but when there are important
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008, Elliott Hird wrote:
> 2008/6/30 Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Haven't you followed modern american judicial proceedings?
Religiously (ooh, bad word choice). I'd agree with you if you say the
"modern" trend began with Marbury v. Madison (1803).
-Goethe
2008/6/30 Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Haven't you followed modern american judicial proceedings? The law be
> damned. Legislation from the bench is the new politically correct
> wave. It is a convenient way to override the inconvenient majority.
>
> BobTHJ
>
Let's adopt it posthaste.
ehird
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 12:24 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008, Roger Hicks wrote:
>> On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> On the other hand, we *are* trying to model a "fair" judicial system, so
>>> bribery for judges is a d
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008, Sgeo wrote:
>> Keeping in mind there are some who have frowned upon legislative play too,
>> and believe 1 person/1 vote and no bribery for all proposals should be
>> relatively sacred. And of course those who don't mind bribing judges :).
>
> I fully support legislative play
> Keeping in mind there are some who have frowned upon legislative play too,
> and believe 1 person/1 vote and no bribery for all proposals should be
> relatively sacred. And of course those who don't mind bribing judges :).
I fully support legislative play for ordinary decisions, but not
democra
2008/6/30 Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Keeping in mind there are some who have frowned upon legislative play too,
> and believe 1 person/1 vote
Democratic revolutionaries! :P
ehird
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008, Roger Hicks wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On the other hand, we *are* trying to model a "fair" judicial system, so
>> bribery for judges is a different (i.e. more frowned-upon) matter.
>>
>
> I'm curious why one and not th
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 1:08 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well it's classic Nomic prisoners dilemma etc., but I disagree that
> it's boring, any more than playing Werewolf (that's been played many
> times before) is boring.
The prisoner's dilemma gets a lot less interesting when yo
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On the other hand, we *are* trying to model a "fair" judicial system, so
> bribery for judges is a different (i.e. more frowned-upon) matter.
>
I'm curious why one and not the other?
BobTHJ
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008, Zefram wrote:
> Quazie wrote:
>> I was just surprised to find that Bribing wasn't illegal, thats all,
>> so I decided to see what would happen.
>
> Precedent is that it gets voted down. The *first* bribery attempt of
> a novel type generally succeeds, but reiterations are fro
Quazie wrote:
>I was just surprised to find that Bribing wasn't illegal, thats all,
>so I decided to see what would happen.
Precedent is that it gets voted down. The *first* bribery attempt of
a novel type generally succeeds, but reiterations are frowned upon.
(Your prisoners' dilemma proposal mi
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008, Quazie wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Quazie wrote:
>>> Proposal 'Another bribe?' AI=2 ii=1
>>
>> Been done before. Boring.
>>
>> -zefram
>>
> I was just surprised to find that Bribing wasn't illegal, thats all,
> so I decided t
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Quazie wrote:
>>Proposal 'Another bribe?' AI=2 ii=1
>
> Been done before. Boring.
>
> -zefram
>
I was just surprised to find that Bribing wasn't illegal, thats all,
so I decided to see what would happen.
Quazie wrote:
>Proposal 'Another bribe?' AI=2 ii=1
Been done before. Boring.
-zefram
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