Re: DIS: [Proto] Down with the Auction Rules

2020-04-16 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Sun, 12 Apr 2020 at 23:29, Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion wrote: > On Sun, 12 Apr 2020 at 19:19, Alexis Hunt wrote: > > > If you got rid of the bit about inconsistency between the rules and > > gamestate, then I don't think there's a lot of substantial difference > > between the choices, on

Re: DIS: [Proto] Down with the Auction Rules

2020-04-16 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
>> > auction is currently in progress (initiated but not resolved), the >> > Registrar CAN initiate a zombie auction. >> >> Needs a method. > > R107 Oops, I need to spend more time reading the rules! >> > 4. For an auction, the outcome is an association of voters (winners) to >> > valid options

Re: DIS: [Proto] Down with the Auction Rules

2020-04-12 Thread Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion
On Sun, 12 Apr 2020 at 19:19, Alexis Hunt wrote: > If you got rid of the bit about inconsistency between the rules and > gamestate, then I don't think there's a lot of substantial difference > between the choices, on the axes you care about. The only thing I can think > of is that mine is

Re: DIS: [Proto] Down with the Auction Rules

2020-04-12 Thread Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion
On Sun, 12 Apr 2020 at 18:20, James Cook via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I'm more a fan of my own. I am not sure how others feel about it. I > think I needed to work out how it would interact with quorum or > something but don't remember anything else I wanted to

Re: DIS: [Proto] Down with the Auction Rules

2020-04-12 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Sun, 12 Apr 2020 at 22:10, Alexis Hunt wrote: > On Sun, 12 Apr 2020 at 14:40, James Cook via agora-discussion > wrote: >> >> On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 at 21:12, Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion >> wrote: >> > On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 at 17:09, Alexis Hunt wrote: >> > >> > > 3. Definitions of specific

Re: DIS: [Proto] Down with the Auction Rules

2020-04-12 Thread Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion
On Sun, 12 Apr 2020 at 14:40, James Cook via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 at 21:12, Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion > wrote: > > On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 at 17:09, Alexis Hunt wrote: > > > > > 3. Definitions of specific types of decisions are meted

Re: DIS: [Proto] Down with the Auction Rules

2020-04-12 Thread Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion
On Sun, 12 Apr 2020 at 14:43, James Cook via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > Great re-use of the Agoran decision rules! You should probably define > "excess lot" so resale value can decay appropriately for those. Two > more comments inline: > Ah, good point. > On

Re: DIS: [Proto] Down with the Auction Rules

2020-04-12 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
Great re-use of the Agoran decision rules! You should probably define "excess lot" so resale value can decay appropriately for those. Two more comments inline: On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 at 03:56, Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion wrote: > auction is currently in progress (initiated but not resolved),

Re: DIS: [Proto] Down with the Auction Rules

2020-04-12 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 at 21:12, Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion wrote: > On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 at 17:09, Alexis Hunt wrote: > > > 3. Definitions of specific types of decisions are meted out to lower-level > > rules or even subsidiary bodies of law, e.g. election procedure no longer > > needs to be

Re: DIS: [Proto] Down with the Auction Rules

2020-04-12 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 at 02:08, Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion wrote: > On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 at 16:40, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > >>> the valid options are the zombies a) that were eligible for auction at > > >>> its initiation and b) whose

Re: DIS: [Proto] Down with the Auction Rules

2020-04-05 Thread Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion
On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 at 16:40, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >>> the valid options are the zombies a) that were eligible for auction at > >>> its initiation and b) whose master switch has not changed in the > >> meanwhile. > >> > >> Right now the

Re: DIS: [Proto] Down with the Auction Rules

2020-04-05 Thread Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion
On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 at 17:09, Alexis Hunt wrote: > 3. Definitions of specific types of decisions are meted out to lower-level > rules or even subsidiary bodies of law, e.g. election procedure no longer > needs to be tied in to high-powered rules. > Oh this made me think of self-ratification and

Re: DIS: [Proto] Down with the Auction Rules

2020-04-05 Thread Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion
On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 at 16:56, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > On 4/5/2020 1:45 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > > On 4/5/20 4:38 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > > Amend Rule 683 (Voting on Agoran Decisions) by appending

Re: DIS: [Proto] Down with the Auction Rules

2020-04-05 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 4/5/2020 1:45 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > On 4/5/20 4:38 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > Amend Rule 683 (Voting on Agoran Decisions) by appending "The above > notwithstanding, an entity CANNOT withdraw a non-PRESENT vote on an auction > decision

Re: DIS: [Proto] Down with the Auction Rules

2020-04-05 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 4/5/20 4:38 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: Amend Rule 683 (Voting on Agoran Decisions) by appending "The above notwithstanding, an entity CANNOT withdraw a non-PRESENT vote on an >>> auction decision except to change eir vote to one with an equal or higher bid." >>>

Re: DIS: [Proto] Down with the Auction Rules

2020-04-05 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 4/4/2020 10:45 PM, Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion wrote: > On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 at 00:28, Kerim Aydin wrote: > >> >> On 4/4/2020 8:55 PM, Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion wrote: >>> A zombie auction is an Agoran decision to award ownership of zombies to >>> players. A zombie is eligible for

Re: DIS: [Proto] Down with the Auction Rules

2020-04-04 Thread Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion
On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 at 00:28, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > On 4/4/2020 8:55 PM, Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion wrote: > > A zombie auction is an Agoran decision to award ownership of zombies to > > players. A zombie is eligible for auction if its

Re: DIS: [Proto] Down with the Auction Rules

2020-04-04 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 4/4/2020 8:55 PM, Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion wrote: > A zombie auction is an Agoran decision to award ownership of zombies to > players. A zombie is eligible for auction if its master switch is set to > Agora and has a resale value greater than 0. Since zombies can vote on decisions I

DIS: [Proto] Down with the Auction Rules

2020-04-04 Thread Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion
Proto: Auction Overhaul (AI=3) {{{ Terminate all auctions; this overrides any rule that would prevent an auction from being terminated. Repeal Rule 2545 (Auctions). Repeal Rule 2549 (Auction Initiation). Repeal Rule 2550 (Bidding). Repeal Rule 2551 (Auction End). Repeal Rule 2552 (Auction