Re: DIS: Proto: Emergency exit

2008-06-18 Thread ihope
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 1:41 AM, Ian Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Silly B Nomic. But I thought they had a rule explicitly enabling ISIDTID? What is ISIDTID? --Ivan Hope CXXVII

Re: DIS: Proto: Emergency exit

2008-06-18 Thread Zefram
ihope wrote: What is ISIDTID? I say I do, therefore I do. The cause of much philosophical debate regarding actions that are defined only by the rules. -zefram

RE: DIS: Proto: Emergency exit

2008-06-18 Thread Alexander Smith
root wrote: I think it's probably a good idea to have some way to fix Agora if things go really bad. So this is an attempt to write a rule which can, by itself and without help from other rules, get the game out of just about any mess. What might this protect us from that R1698 would

Re: DIS: Proto: Emergency exit

2008-06-18 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008, Zefram wrote: ihope wrote: What is ISIDTID? I say I do, therefore I do. The cause of much philosophical debate regarding actions that are defined only by the rules. Specifically, all the actions we perform around here are speech acts, enabled by the Rules (posting I

RE: DIS: Proto: Emergency exit

2008-06-18 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008, Alexander Smith wrote: Finally, I can imagine a situation where Agora winds up in a really drastically unknown gamestate, where even though there is a way to pass a proposal within four weeks, nobody is entirely sure how. We're already in such a gamestate. Ref: The

RE: DIS: Proto: Emergency exit

2008-06-18 Thread Alexander Smith
Goethe wrote: On Wed, 18 Jun 2008, Alexander Smith wrote: Finally, I can imagine a situation where Agora winds up in a really drastically unknown gamestate, where even though there is a way to pass a proposal within four weeks, nobody is entirely sure how. We're already in such a

RE: DIS: Proto: Emergency exit

2008-06-18 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008, Alexander Smith wrote: Goethe wrote: On Wed, 18 Jun 2008, Alexander Smith wrote: Finally, I can imagine a situation where Agora winds up in a really drastically unknown gamestate, where even though there is a way to pass a proposal within four weeks, nobody is entirely

RE: DIS: Proto: Emergency exit

2008-06-18 Thread Alexander Smith
Goethe wrote: The Annabel Crisis appeared in a 419 scam? Do tell! (And I'll tell you :) ). Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be deliberate. http://osdir.com/ml/sysutils.pcp/2005-12/msg9.html is archived by one of the same websites that archives Agora mailing lists, and contains both the

RE: DIS: Proto: Emergency exit

2008-06-18 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008, Alexander Smith wrote: Goethe wrote: The Annabel Crisis appeared in a 419 scam? Do tell! (And I'll tell you :) ). Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be deliberate. http://osdir.com/ml/sysutils.pcp/2005-12/msg9.html is archived by one of the same websites that

Re: DIS: Proto: Emergency exit

2008-06-18 Thread Ed Murphy
Goethe wrote: Solutions proposed: 1. judicially declare all actions performed by annabel to be (retroactively) ineffective because, in retrospect, the messages didn't constitute clear communication as to whom they applied to (I still think this would have and did work, hence no

Re: DIS: Proto: Emergency exit

2008-06-18 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008, Ed Murphy wrote: Goethe wrote: Solutions proposed: 1. judicially declare all actions performed by annabel to be (retroactively) ineffective because, in retrospect, the messages didn't constitute clear communication as to whom they applied to (I still think this would

DIS: Proto: Emergency exit

2008-06-17 Thread Alexander Smith
Seeing what's happened to B Nomic recently (apparently almost everything since last December has been illegal due to specifying SHALL rather than SHALL and CAN), I think it's probably a good idea to have some way to fix Agora if things go really bad. So this is an attempt to write a rule which

Re: DIS: Proto: Emergency exit

2008-06-17 Thread Nick Vanderweit
On Tuesday 17 June 2008 13:53:39 Alexander Smith wrote: Seeing what's happened to B Nomic recently (apparently almost everything since last December has been illegal due to specifying SHALL rather than SHALL and CAN), I think it's probably a good idea to have some way to fix Agora if things

Re: DIS: Proto: Emergency exit

2008-06-17 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Alexander Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seeing what's happened to B Nomic recently (apparently almost everything since last December has been illegal due to specifying SHALL rather than SHALL and CAN) Well, that was just my opinion and a Consultation stating

Re: DIS: Proto: Emergency exit

2008-06-17 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Alexander Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seeing what's happened to B Nomic recently (apparently almost everything since last December has been illegal due to specifying SHALL rather than SHALL and CAN), Silly B Nomic. But I thought they had a rule explicitly