Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Minor cleaning

2020-06-19 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
I submit, m'lud, that the fact that my learned opponent believed the concept of "intent" was in the previous rule version shows that "attempt", in a natural sense, coveys the sense of intent in the (unremoved) text. On 6/18/2020 8:51 PM, Rebecca via agora-discussion wrote: > never mind, cant

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Minor cleaning

2020-06-18 Thread Rebecca via agora-discussion
never mind, cant read. rest of argument still stands on ordinary meaning of attempt in a criminal context. new common sense arguments: rules tend to think intending anything you want is okay and criminalizing formal intent is bad, see the No Faking rule (exempting intent) On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Minor cleaning

2020-06-18 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 6/18/2020 8:02 PM, Rebecca via agora-discussion wrote: > Merely thinking and planning to commit murder isn't attempted murder, the > acts carried out have to be "more than merely preparatory" (under English > law). The same applies to this analogous crime, merely preparing to take > the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Minor cleaning

2020-06-18 Thread Rebecca via agora-discussion
On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 12:52 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > CFJ: R. Lee attempted to perform a forbidden action in the message in > evidence. > > Barred: R. Lee > > Arguments: > > In reference to: > Attempting a forbidden action is

DIS: Re: BUS: Minor cleaning

2020-06-18 Thread Rebecca via agora-discussion
Lol, I just amended the forbidden arts rule to allow me to do this, so nice try. It would require me to actually do the action (or attempt it) which I can't do due to the objection. I didn't have any overarching objective with this message lol it was mainly a Beaker joke. On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at

DIS: Re: BUS: Minor cleaning

2020-06-18 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/18/20 8:50 PM, Rebecca via agora-business wrote: > I intend, without objection, to amed the rules in the following > inconsequential way: > Amend every word in the ruleset except the rules at power 4 to read "Meep" > > -- > From R. Lee I don't think words can read. -- nch Prime Minister,