DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2048 judged UNIMPUGNED by Taral

2008-07-15 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, Ian Kelly wrote: I support this. The precedent from CFJ 1738 is that speech acts do carry truth values. Additionally, I know of no precedent stating what Taral claims. The action having received two support, I hereby appeal CFJ 2048. Um, did you just attempt to act

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2048 judged UNIMPUGNED by Taral

2008-07-15 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Kerim Aydin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, Ian Kelly wrote: I support this. The precedent from CFJ 1738 is that speech acts do carry truth values. Additionally, I know of no precedent stating what Taral claims. The action having received two

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2048 judged UNIMPUGNED by Taral

2008-07-15 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, Ian Kelly wrote: R1728 allows that. We voted that in after comex deliberately prevented an appeal by announcing eir intent to do it and then never actually doing it, remember? Nope! Now I know tho. :)

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2048 judged UNIMPUGNED by Taral

2008-07-15 Thread Elliott Hird
2008/7/15 Ian Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED]: R1728 allows that. We voted that in after comex deliberately prevented an appeal by announcing eir intent to do it and then never actually doing it, remember? I remember that in #ircnomic. :)

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2048 judged UNIMPUGNED by Taral

2008-07-07 Thread Taral
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 1:55 PM, Zefram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With 2 support I intend to appeal Taral's verdict in CFJ 2048. The judge has not referred to the alleged precedent that would make a failing speech act merely ineffective rather than untruthful, and I think e is mistaken in saying

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2048 judged UNIMPUGNED by Taral

2008-07-07 Thread Zefram
Taral wrote: required to show that the accused did not believe eir statement to be true. I thought that side of the case was uncontroversial. -zefram

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2048 judged UNIMPUGNED by Taral

2008-07-07 Thread Taral
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Zefram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought that side of the case was uncontroversial. I think a determination as to the existence of truth values for actions is more appropriately achieved by an inquiry case, not an appeal of a criminal case. -- Taral [EMAIL