Re: DIS: Second-Class Players

2013-04-03 Thread Elliott Hird
I would like to throw in my support for the continued existence of second-class players. I'd rather have partnerships back, in fact. On 3 April 2013 03:25, Wes Contreras w...@antitribu.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 7:20 PM, com...@gmail.com wrote: E just submitted a proposal, which is one

Re: DIS: Second-Class Players

2013-04-02 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2013-04-01 at 12:52 -0700, Wes Contreras wrote: Can anyone explain why Second-Class Players exist? Because they significantly complicate the Rules without any apparent benefit. It occurred to us that perhaps we should ask before drafting Proposals to remove them. Basically they're a

Re: DIS: Second-Class Players

2013-04-02 Thread Wes Contreras
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote: Also, because of Bucky, our resident participating non-player. Giving him control of second-class players is one of the main means via which he participates. As far as we can tell, there are currently no actions e can take

Re: DIS: Second-Class Players

2013-04-02 Thread comexk
E just submitted a proposal, which is one such action; there are others. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 2, 2013, at 2:55 PM, Wes Contreras w...@antitribu.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote: Also, because of Bucky, our resident participating

Re: DIS: Second-Class Players

2013-04-02 Thread Wes Contreras
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 7:20 PM, com...@gmail.com wrote: E just submitted a proposal, which is one such action; there are others. It would be trivial to enable Golems to submit Proposals. It is somewhat less trivial to penetrate the vague hand-waving of there are others to identify what other

Re: DIS: Second-Class Players

2013-04-01 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 1 Apr 2013, Wes Contreras wrote: On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Tanner Swett swe...@mail.gvsu.edu wrote: Simply put: the rules about second-class players are there because we have, from time to time, had second-class players (only partnerships, as far as I remember), and so it's

Re: DIS: Second-Class Players

2013-04-01 Thread Wes Contreras
On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: If we don't want them in general, we'd need to make sure that the rules explicitly forbid anyone but a first-class person from being defined as a person. We find the concept of Second-Class Persons to be useful, and

Re: DIS: Second-Class Players

2013-04-01 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 1 Apr 2013, Wes Contreras wrote: On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: If we don't want them in general, we'd need to make sure that the rules explicitly forbid anyone but a first-class person from being defined as a person. We find the

Re: DIS: Second-Class Players

2013-04-01 Thread omd
On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Slave golems have been used for ownership scams, criminal scams, and currency scams. Anything genuinely useful in there? It used to be possible to let partnerships (not slave golems) vote by spending assets on their