Re: DIS: To repair listlessness v0.2

2010-08-17 Thread ais523
On Mon, 2010-08-16 at 17:20 -0600, Sean Hunt wrote: This leads to another question: Does Win by Clout really need to be repealed? I'd say so. The odds of it being triggered are practically nil except in the event of a scam (actually, that's basically the case right now too). It was good

DIS: To repair listlessness v0.2

2010-08-16 Thread Kerim Aydin
Proto: Reinventing The List v0.2 (AI-2) [Changes: 1. Made cost of list movement equal to number of votes over which one jumps. Makes it very expensive to get to the top of the list unless the Speaker puts yo7u there. 2. The Speaker's position becomes very like the Grand Poobah in

Re: DIS: To repair listlessness v0.2

2010-08-16 Thread Sean Hunt
On 08/16/2010 04:28 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: 3. Moved the office-tracking to the granulator (associated with Leadership, I suppose, and I'm willing to get it started). I think this belongs to the Herald and, honestly, Herald is currently in

Re: DIS: To repair listlessness v0.2

2010-08-16 Thread Keba
Kerim Aydin wrote: Proto: Reinventing The List v0.2 (AI-2) AI should be 2.1 because of Create the following Rule, Leader Bootstrap, power-2.1:, shouldn’t it? I like most of the idea, but I don’t want DICE rolls here. The Rebbel system should work differently. 1/3 of all active Players could be

Re: DIS: To repair listlessness v0.2

2010-08-16 Thread Sean Hunt
On 08/16/2010 05:06 PM, Keba wrote: Kerim Aydin wrote: Proto: Reinventing The List v0.2 (AI-2) AI should be 2.1 because of Create the following Rule, Leader Bootstrap, power-2.1:, shouldn’t it? I like most of the idea, but I don’t want DICE rolls here. The Rebbel system should work

Re: DIS: To repair listlessness v0.2

2010-08-16 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 16 Aug 2010, Sean Hunt wrote: waitwhat? This does nicely solve the rapid Court manipulation problem, I think. I would give you a prop for this idea, but I'd end up taking it from you for suggesting the current system, so it's a wash. Hey now hooold on there...the last system but one

Re: DIS: To repair listlessness v0.2

2010-08-16 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 16 Aug 2010, Sean Hunt wrote: [When multiple players win, they can cycle through speakership at 7-day intervals with order of winning not mattering] 7 or 14? I like that there may be a ratrace to crown other people so as to get the Speakership when the dust settles. Does that

Re: DIS: To repair listlessness v0.2

2010-08-16 Thread Sean Hunt
On 08/16/2010 05:32 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Mon, 16 Aug 2010, Sean Hunt wrote: waitwhat? This does nicely solve the rapid Court manipulation problem, I think. I would give you a prop for this idea, but I'd end up taking it from you for suggesting the current system, so it's a wash. Hey

Re: DIS: To repair listlessness v0.2

2010-08-16 Thread Sean Hunt
On 08/16/2010 05:36 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Mon, 16 Aug 2010, Sean Hunt wrote: [When multiple players win, they can cycle through speakership at 7-day intervals with order of winning not mattering] 7 or 14? I like that there may be a ratrace to crown other people so as to get the

Re: DIS: To repair listlessness v0.2

2010-08-16 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: Nah, Chamber doesn't work that well anyways. What about that change that ehird suggested, where you got 5 votes on some chamber other than your own?

Re: DIS: To repair listlessness v0.2

2010-08-16 Thread Sean Hunt
On 08/16/2010 11:05 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: coppro wrote: Nah, Chamber doesn't work that well anyways. What about that change that ehird suggested, where you got 5 votes on some chamber other than your own? I'm a fan. I suppose we could leave it in with this proposal - though it would mean

Re: DIS: To repair listlessness

2010-07-27 Thread Sean Hunt
On 07/25/2010 04:29 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: Proto: Reinventing The List (AI-2) Create the following rule, The List of Succession, Power=2: The List of Succession is an ordered list of all current players except the current Speaker. The first (1st) position is the

Re: DIS: To repair listlessness

2010-07-27 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010, Sean Hunt wrote: On 07/25/2010 04:29 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: Proto: Reinventing The List (AI-2) [comments] Thanks for the comments. Most are right on. On this: Also, I don't like the term Ascension. And this: A Ministry? A Department? Something more original! I

Re: DIS: To repair listlessness

2010-07-27 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010, Sean Hunt wrote: A cost of 2P, or different costs for up and down or for personal and targeted moves would still probably be fine; the list is not dynamic if it involves each player just moving to each office they want when it's convenient. Just a comment here: since

Re: DIS: To repair listlessness

2010-07-27 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 17:29, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Proto:  Reinventing The List (AI-2) I understand, of course, that the List of Succession is broken. However, I feel like this proposal will basically just create a mad push 60 days after the previous Speaker is out of

Re: DIS: To repair listlessness

2010-07-27 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010, Aaron Goldfein wrote: On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 17:29, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote Proto:  Reinventing The List (AI-2) I understand, of course, that the List of Succession is broken. However, I feel like this proposal will basically just create a mad push

DIS: To repair listlessness

2010-07-25 Thread Kerim Aydin
Proto: Reinventing The List (AI-2) Create the following rule, The List of Succession, Power=2: The List of Succession is an ordered list of all current players except the current Speaker. The first (1st) position is the highest (top) position on the list and the