DIS: Re: BUS: The Conservative Party

2009-06-03 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/6/3 Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk: An attornor CAN attorning to perform a specific action by announcement if the attornee is party to a contract that specifically allows (...) Should this be CAN attorn? -- -Tiger

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Oracular Inquiries

2009-06-03 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/6/3 Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com: Benjamin Caplan wrote: Sean Hunt wrote: Benjamin Caplan wrote: Sean Hunt wrote: Benjamin Caplan wrote: I intend, without Objection, to add ora...@cs.indiana.edu as a send-only address to agora-busin...@agoranomic.org. What effect does this have,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The Conservative Party

2009-06-03 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/6/3 Charles Reiss woggl...@gmail.com: It is POSSIBLE to attorn if the attornee is party to a Public contract explicitly permitting acting on behalf of the attornee. I think there is a bug in here allowing anyone to act on behalf of me even if the contract only permits, say, a

DIS: Re: BUS: Inactivation

2009-06-03 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 11:51 PM, Christian Julius thesi...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 6:25 AM, comex com...@gmail.com wrote: I intend, without objection, to make Siege inactive. I object to making Siege inactive. Can we inactivate by proposal?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Inactivation

2009-06-03 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/6/3 Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com: On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 11:51 PM, Christian Julius thesi...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 6:25 AM, comex com...@gmail.com wrote: I intend, without objection, to make Siege inactive. I object to making Siege inactive. Can we inactivate

DIS: Re: BUS: We need a live bank again.

2009-06-03 Thread comex
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 11:43 PM, Benjamin Caplan celestialcognit...@gmail.com wrote: I join the IBA, deposit all my crops in it, and request subsidy. Sorry, but this fails as the order is unspecified.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The Conservative Party

2009-06-03 Thread comex
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 11:20 PM, Benjamin Caplan celestialcognit...@gmail.com wrote: All this is far more complicated than it's worth. { Amend rule 1742 (Contracts) by appending the paragraph:      A person CAN on behalf of another as authorized by a public      contract to which the person

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The Conservative Party

2009-06-03 Thread Paul VanKoughnett
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 9:18 PM, comex com...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 11:20 PM, Benjamin Caplan celestialcognit...@gmail.com wrote: All this is far more complicated than it's worth. { Amend rule 1742 (Contracts) by appending the paragraph: A person CAN on behalf of

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We need a live bank again.

2009-06-03 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 1:53 AM, Benjamin Caplan celestialcognit...@gmail.com wrote:      The Assessor's report contains a list of all pending intents to      perform dependent actions. Doesn't really work; just post your sneaky intent immediately after the Assessor's report is published and you

DIS: Re: BUS: Cyan Ribbon

2009-06-03 Thread Sean Hunt
Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: 2009/6/3 Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com: On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 9:59 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: I award myself a Cyan Ribbon (I deputized for the IADoP a long time ago but never awarded myself a ribbon). Also, I award myself a Green

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Cyan Ribbon

2009-06-03 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/6/3 Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com: Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: 2009/6/3 Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com: On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 9:59 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: I award myself a Cyan Ribbon (I deputized for the IADoP a long time ago but never awarded myself a

DIS: Re: BUS: Inactivation

2009-06-03 Thread Elliott Hird
Someone attempts to inactivate you. (A) Start participating (B) Let it happen (C) Just object without justification for eternity, inflating quorum. C On 2009-06-03, Christian Julius thesi...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 6:25 AM, comex com...@gmail.com wrote: I intend, without

DIS: Re: BUS: We need a live bank again.

2009-06-03 Thread Elliott Hird
As Wooble said, the PBA is bootstrapped and simpler than the IBA to boot - but Step 1. Gain active economy. On 2009-06-03, Benjamin Caplan celestialcognit...@gmail.com wrote: I join the IBA, deposit all my crops in it, and request subsidy. Pavitra

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The Conservative Party

2009-06-03 Thread Elliott Hird
Sucks The iPhone But I'm sorry On 2009-06-03, Benjamin Caplan celestialcognit...@gmail.com wrote: Paul VanKoughnett wrote: What about private contracts? It was suggested recently, and I think I agree, that private act-on-behalf authorization is generally a Bad Thing because it makes it

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Elliott Hird
Get off my lawn! Even I lurked for a month or two :P On 2009-06-03, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Paul VanKoughnett allisp...@gmail.comwrote: Clearly I'm a player. I registered in the seventh sentence of my first e-mail. And, Yally, I've

DIS: Re: BUS: [IBA] Motion to Amend

2009-06-03 Thread comex
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 4:28 PM, comex com...@gmail.com wrote: I initiate a Motion to Amend, specifying the following amendment (in diff format).  The eligible voters are the parties to the IBA, the options

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [IBA] Motion to Amend

2009-06-03 Thread Charles Walker
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 4:40 PM, comex com...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 4:28 PM, comex com...@gmail.com wrote: I initiate a Motion to Amend, specifying the following amendment (in diff

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [IBA] Motion to Amend

2009-06-03 Thread Ed Murphy
c-walker wrote: No, you're right. I thought I had joined. I join the IBA. -- C-walker, who clearly intends this message to be public. NttPF (and there's Agoran precedent that your .sig doesn't work, as one cannot rely on everyone being subscribed to a-d)

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [IBA] Motion to Amend

2009-06-03 Thread comex
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: c-walker wrote: No, you're right. I thought I had joined. I join the IBA. -- C-walker, who clearly intends this message to be public. NttPF (and there's Agoran precedent that your .sig doesn't work, as one cannot

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [IBA] Motion to Amend

2009-06-03 Thread Elliott Hird
He had it for B. On 2009-06-03, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: c-walker wrote: No, you're right. I thought I had joined. I join the IBA. -- C-walker, who clearly intends this message to be public. NttPF (and there's Agoran precedent that your .sig doesn't work, as one cannot

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Sgeo
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: Get off my lawn! Even I lurked for a month or two :P I've lurked since 2005... kind of. I was interested in Agora in 2005, but did not participate, nor did I ask to be a watcher. I was subscribed to a-d, but

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Kyle Marek-Spartz
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Sgeo sgeos...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: Get off my lawn! Even I lurked for a month or two :P I'm not antilurk. I'm merely a hands on learner. Kyle Marek-Spartz - KDØGTK

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Elliott Hird wrote: Get off my lawn! Even I lurked for a month or two :P I didn't. Registered within an hour of finding this place. Well, I attempted to and caused a CFJ, *then* registered. And no, you can't have your frisbee back. -G.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Quazie
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Elliott Hird wrote: Get off my lawn! Even I lurked for a month or two :P I didn't.  Registered within an hour of finding this place.  Well, I attempted to and caused a CFJ, *then* registered.  And

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The Conservative Party

2009-06-03 Thread Benjamin Caplan
comex wrote: On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 11:20 PM, Benjamin Caplan celestialcognit...@gmail.com wrote: All this is far more complicated than it's worth. { Amend rule 1742 (Contracts) by appending the paragraph: � � �A person CAN on behalf of another as authorized by a public � � �contract to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Quazie wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Elliott Hird wrote: Get off my lawn! Even I lurked for a month or two :P I didn't.  Registered within an hour of finding this place.  Well, I attempted to and

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Roger Hicks
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:35, Kerim Aydinke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Elliott Hird wrote: Get off my lawn! Even I lurked for a month or two :P I didn't.  Registered within an hour of finding this place.  Well, I attempted to and caused a CFJ, *then* registered.  And no,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Elliott Hird
Directed at Yally. On 2009-06-03, Kyle Marek-Spartz zeckal...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Sgeo sgeos...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: Get off my lawn! Even I lurked for a month or two :P I'm not

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Quazie
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Roger Hicks pidge...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:35, Kerim Aydinke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Elliott Hird wrote: Get off my lawn! Even I lurked for a month or two :P I didn't.  Registered within an hour of finding this

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Charles Walker
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Quazie quazieno...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Roger Hicks pidge...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:35, Kerim Aydinke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Elliott Hird wrote: Get off my lawn! Even I lurked for a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Kyle Marek-Spartz
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Quazie quazieno...@gmail.com wrote: I had a printout copy of the ruleset the first time i started agora. I ran out of paper. Double sided.

DIS: Re: BUS: We need a live bank again.

2009-06-03 Thread Roger Hicks
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 13:30, Geoffrey Speargeoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 11:43 PM, Benjamin Caplan celestialcognit...@gmail.com wrote: I join the IBA, deposit all my crops in it, and request subsidy. I CFJ on: Pavitra owns at least 1 crop. Evidence: comex claims the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Kyle Marek-Spartz wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Quazie quazieno...@gmail.com wrote: I had a printout copy of the ruleset the first time i started agora. I ran out of paper.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We need a live bank again.

2009-06-03 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Roger Hicks pidge...@gmail.com wrote: Arguments: Pavitra didn't say I transfer all my crops to the IBA, instead e attempted to perform an action defined by the IBA contract (deposit) which if successful would result in the transfer of assets from Pavitra to the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We need a live bank again.

2009-06-03 Thread Roger Hicks
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 13:51, Geoffrey Speargeoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Roger Hicks pidge...@gmail.com wrote: Arguments: Pavitra didn't say I transfer all my crops to the IBA, instead e attempted to perform an action defined by the IBA contract (deposit) which

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We need a live bank again.

2009-06-03 Thread comex
Actions in Agora are generally ordered; unordered actions are accepted only when they cause no ambiguity because the order is unimportant to the rules. Assets are rule-defined entities and allowing the unordered transfers (before the amendment I proposed, which specifies a default order,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We need a live bank again.

2009-06-03 Thread Ed Murphy
comex wrote: Actions in Agora are generally ordered; unordered actions are accepted only when they cause no ambiguity because the order is unimportant to the rules. Assets are rule-defined entities and allowing the unordered transfers (before the amendment I proposed, which specifies a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We need a live bank again.

2009-06-03 Thread Benjamin Caplan
Ed Murphy wrote: comex wrote: Actions in Agora are generally ordered; unordered actions are accepted only when they cause no ambiguity because the order is unimportant to the rules. Assets are rule-defined entities and allowing the unordered transfers (before the amendment I proposed,

DIS: Re: BUS: We need a live bank again.

2009-06-03 Thread comex
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Benjamin Caplan celestialcognit...@gmail.com wrote: To reduce long-term ambiguity, I deposit all my crops in the IBA in the order that maximizes the net amount of zm thereby gained. If this is correct: Player 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 X

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We need a live bank again.

2009-06-03 Thread Ed Murphy
Pavitra wrote: I'm assuming the last word of paragraph 3 should have been Black. Yes, copy+paste error.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Quazie wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Elliott Hird wrote: Get off my lawn! Even I lurked for a month or two :P I

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Quazie
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Quazie wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Wed, 3 Jun 2009,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Quazie quazieno...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Quazie wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Paul VanKoughnett
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Quazie quazieno...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Kerim Aydin

DIS: Re: BUS: [IADoP] CotC Election

2009-06-03 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: 2009/6/4 Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com: I initiate an election to decide the holder of the CotC office. The eligible voters are the active players, the vote collector is the IADoP, and the

DIS: Re: BUS: [IBA] Don't rip bankers off

2009-06-03 Thread Roger Hicks
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 16:19, Benjamin Caplancelestialcognit...@gmail.com wrote: comex wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 5:58 PM, comex com...@gmail.com wrote: I initiate a Motion to Amend, specifying the following amendment (in diff format). �The eligible voters are the parties to the IBA, the

DIS: Re: BUS: [IADoP] CotC Election

2009-06-03 Thread Taral
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 4:58 PM, comex com...@gmail.com wrote: YOU MAY CALL ME BIG FUCKING EDWARD Does that mean comex is now BIG FUCKING EDWARD? -- Taral tar...@gmail.com Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you. -- Unknown

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [IBA] Don't rip bankers off

2009-06-03 Thread Sean Hunt
Roger Hicks wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 16:19, Benjamin Caplancelestialcognit...@gmail.com wrote: comex wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 5:58 PM, comex com...@gmail.com wrote: I initiate a Motion to Amend, specifying the following amendment (in diff format). ?The eligible voters are the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We need a live bank again.

2009-06-03 Thread Sean Hunt
comex wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Benjamin Caplan celestialcognit...@gmail.com wrote: To reduce long-term ambiguity, I deposit all my crops in the IBA in the order that maximizes the net amount of zm thereby gained. If this is correct: Player 0 1 2 3 4 5

DIS: Re: BUS: [IADoP] CotC Election

2009-06-03 Thread Ed Murphy
Yally wrote: I initiate an election to decide the holder of the CotC office. The eligible voters are the active players, the vote collector is the IADoP, and the options are Murphy (incumbent), You May Call Me Big Fucking Edward, and PRESENT. I vote for Me.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Kyle Marek-Spartz
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Kyle Marek-Spartz zeckal...@gmail.com wrote: You at least heard of Agora before you joined it. I pledge to transfer a prop from myself to the first person who, while not a player and not barred from registering (either due to recent deregistration or

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:05 PM, Kyle Marek-Spartz zeckal...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Kyle Marek-Spartz zeckal...@gmail.com wrote: You at least heard of Agora before you joined it. I pledge to transfer a prop from myself to the first person who, while not a

DIS: Re: BUS: [IADoP] CotC Election

2009-06-03 Thread Elliott Hird
Trivial typo != ambiguity On 2009-06-04, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote: Aaron Goldfein wrote: I initiate an election to decide the holder of the CotC office. The eligible voters are the active players, the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Paul VanKoughnett
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Kyle Marek-Spartz zeckal...@gmail.comwrote: You at least heard of Agora before you joined it. I pledge to transfer a prop from myself to the first person who, while not a player and not barred from registering (either due to recent deregistration or

DIS: Re: BUS: [IADoP] CotC Election

2009-06-03 Thread Kyle Marek-Spartz
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote: Aaron Goldfein wrote: I initiate an election to decide the holder of the CotC office. The eligible voters are the active players, the vote

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [IADoP] CotC Election

2009-06-03 Thread Kyle Marek-Spartz
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:09 PM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: Trivial typo != ambiguity Eir CFJ does not check for ambiguities. E is just pointing it out. Kyle Marek-Spartz - KDØGTK

DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Luke Lockhart luke.lockh...@gmail.comwrote: I have no idea what is going on here but wish to join you. Welcome to Agora. Is there any nickname you would like to use? -Yally

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Kyle Marek-Spartz
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Luke Lockhart luke.lockh...@gmail.com wrote: I have no idea what is going on here but wish to join you. Welcome to Agora. Is there any nickname you would like to use? -Yally I

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Craig Daniel
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:24 PM, Kyle Marek-Spartz zeckal...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Luke Lockhart luke.lockh...@gmail.com wrote: I have no idea what is going on here but wish to join

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Kyle Marek-Spartz
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:26 PM, Craig Daniel teu...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:24 PM, Kyle Marek-Spartz zeckal...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Luke Lockhart

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Craig Daniel
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:31 PM, Kyle Marek-Spartz zeckal...@gmail.com wrote: Can non-players get crim CFJs? What if players committed crimes prior to eir registration? If you were a second-class person, would its parties be liable? If it were, then Luke's message would have been ambiguous.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Aaron Goldfein wrote: Of course, in terms of shortest lurk time, Michael will always win. -G. Not really. I received a grand total of 0 game messages before registering. I assume you were subscribed for a positive finite time?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Aaron Goldfein wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Luke Lockhart luke.lockh...@gmail.comwrote: I have no idea what is going on here but wish to join you. Welcome to Agora. Is there any nickname you would like to use? Er, not knowing what one is wishing and not using

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Kyle Marek-Spartz
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:37 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Aaron Goldfein wrote: Of course, in terms of shortest lurk time, Michael will always win. -G. Not really. I received a grand total of 0 game messages before registering. I assume you were

DIS: Re: BUS: [IADoP] CotC Election

2009-06-03 Thread Sean Hunt
Kerim Aydin wrote: On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Elliott Hird wrote: Irresistable. I transfer a prop from G. to Murphy (sorry, nothing personal). If I have not already done so this week, I transfer a from coppro to ehird because ditto. -G. I attempt the above

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [IADoP] CotC Election

2009-06-03 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Sean Hunt wrote: Kerim Aydin wrote: On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Elliott Hird wrote: Irresistable. I transfer a prop from G. to Murphy (sorry, nothing personal). If I have not already done so this week, I transfer a from coppro to ehird

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Paul VanKoughnett
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Kyle Marek-Spartz zeckal...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:26 PM, Craig Daniel teu...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:24 PM, Kyle Marek-Spartz zeckal...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Aaron Goldfein

DIS: Re: BUS: [IADoP] CotC Election

2009-06-03 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Aaron Goldfein wrote: I transfer a prop from Murphy to coppro because this whole line of prop transfering is inane. Actually, it's the whole purpose of Props = harmless way to vent ire. Then again your transfer also fulfilled said purpose. -G.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [IADoP] CotC Election

2009-06-03 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Sean Hunt wrote: Kerim Aydin wrote: On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Elliott Hird wrote: Irresistable. I transfer a prop from G. to Murphy (sorry, nothing personal).

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:49 PM, Craig Daniel teu...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:43 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Aaron Goldfein wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Luke Lockhart luke.lockh...@gmail.com wrote: I have no idea

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Craig Daniel
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:50 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: You're not a player. I'm not? Shit, when did I get deregistered?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Craig Daniel teu...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:50 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: You're not a player. I'm not? Shit, when did I get deregistered? You never registered, at least not recently.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Paul VanKoughnett
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Kyle Marek-Spartz zeckal...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:37 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Aaron Goldfein wrote: Of course, in terms of shortest lurk time, Michael will always win. -G. Not really. I

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Craig Daniel
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:02 PM, Kyle Marek-Spartz zeckal...@gmail.com wrote: You at least heard of Agora before you joined it. I pledge to transfer a prop from myself to the first person who, while not a player and not barred from registering (either due to recent deregistration or

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Paul VanKoughnett allisp...@gmail.comwrote: Award the Patent Title of Not A Lurker to Yally. Doesn't get my vote unless you poll whom amongst us also deserves this. -G.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Sean Hunt
Kerim Aydin wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Paul VanKoughnett allisp...@gmail.comwrote: Award the Patent Title of Not A Lurker to Yally. Doesn't get my vote unless you poll whom amongst us also deserves this. -G. Agreed.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Kyle Marek-Spartz
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Craig Daniel teu...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:50 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: You're not a player. I'm not? Shit, when did I get

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Craig Daniel
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Craig Daniel teu...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:50 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: You're not a player. I'm not? Shit, when did I get

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Craig Daniel
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:06 AM, Kyle Marek-Spartz zeckal...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Craig Daniel teu...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:50 PM, Aaron Goldfein

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Sean Hunt
Craig Daniel wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Craig Daniel teu...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:50 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: You're not a player. I'm not? Shit,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Kyle Marek-Spartz
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:01 PM, Craig Daniel teu...@pobox.com wrote: (11:16:39 PM) craigbdaniel: Does the word Agora mean anything not directly related to either Greece or agoraphobia to you? Evidence. Kyle Marek-Spartz - KDØGTK

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Sean Hunt
Craig Daniel wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:49 PM, Craig Daniel teu...@pobox.com wrote: I call a CFJ on the statement: Luke Lockhart is a player. Having restored my playerhood, I do so again, probably efficaciously this time. I'd retract the second one; you don't need to be a player to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:09 PM, Kyle Marek-Spartz zeckal...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:01 PM, Craig Daniel teu...@pobox.com wrote: (11:16:39 PM) craigbdaniel: Does the word Agora mean anything not directly related to either Greece or agoraphobia to you? Evidence. Kyle

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Craig Daniel
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:12 AM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:09 PM, Kyle Marek-Spartz zeckal...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:01 PM, Craig Daniel teu...@pobox.com wrote: (11:16:39 PM) craigbdaniel: Does the word Agora mean anything

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Michael Norrish
Aaron Goldfein wrote: But Michael created the game. You at least heard of agora before you created it. E created it. E had probably played/watched a lot more nomic than I had. I'd read Steve Gardner's Nomic World reports, and that was it. I think this was through a mailing list

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Ed Murphy
teucer wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:49 PM, Craig Daniel teu...@pobox.com wrote: I call a CFJ on the statement: Luke Lockhart is a player. Having restored my playerhood, I do so again, probably efficaciously this time. It was effective the first time. You can retract the second case.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Michael Norrish wrote: Aaron Goldfein wrote: But Michael created the game. You at least heard of agora before you created it. E created it. E had probably played/watched a lot more nomic than I had. I'd read Steve Gardner's Nomic World reports, and that was

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Ed Murphy
teucer wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: You never registered, at least not recently. I believed I registered on January 3, and was immediately NOV'd for IIRC you are also the Craig that was registered from 25 Apr 02 to 9 Mar 03.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Craig Daniel wrote: On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:12 AM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:09 PM, Kyle Marek-Spartz zeckal...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:01 PM, Craig Daniel teu...@pobox.com wrote: (11:16:39 PM)

DIS: Re: BUS: Lurking

2009-06-03 Thread Sean Hunt
Paul VanKoughnett wrote: I retract my proposal Very little to no lurk time. Please respond if you believe you deserve the Patent Title of Not A Lurker. I'll resubmit when I have a more complete list. I do I signed up, immediately registered, and jumped right in.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Kyle Marek-Spartz
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Michael Norrish wrote: Aaron Goldfein wrote:     But Michael created the game.  You at least heard of agora before you     created it.  E created it. E had probably played/watched a lot more nomic

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Ed Murphy wrote: teucer wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: You never registered, at least not recently. I believed I registered on January 3, and was immediately NOV'd for IIRC you are also the Craig that was

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Craig Daniel
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:40 AM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Oh hey you're that Craig?  I remember your CFJs fondly.  -G. Huh. I don't remember them at all. But yes, I'm the same Craig. ...how bad were they?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Rodlen
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 9:39 PM, Kyle Marek-Spartz zeckal...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Michael Norrish wrote: Aaron Goldfein wrote: But Michael created the game. You at least heard of agora before

DIS: Re: BUS: Two Actions

2009-06-03 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Kyle Marek-Spartz wrote: I CFJ on the following statement: The first game of Agora lasted 100 years. I think that's in the FAQ, although maybe that's just about R104. Original ruleset defined games as ending and beginning the next one when someone won, and someone indeed did

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Two Actions

2009-06-03 Thread Kyle Marek-Spartz
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:15 AM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Kyle Marek-Spartz wrote: I CFJ on the following statement: The first game of Agora lasted 100 years. I think that's in the FAQ, although maybe that's just about R104. Original ruleset defined games

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Two Actions

2009-06-03 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Kerim Aydin wrote: I think that's in the FAQ, although maybe that's just about R104. Original ruleset defined games as ending and beginning the next one when someone won, and someone indeed did in the first year or so. On a related note, here's a question: how many here

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Two Actions

2009-06-03 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Kyle Marek-Spartz wrote: On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:15 AM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Kyle Marek-Spartz wrote: I CFJ on the following statement: The first game of Agora lasted 100 years. I think that's in the FAQ, although maybe that's

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Craig Daniel wrote: On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:40 AM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Oh hey you're that Craig?  I remember your CFJs fondly.  -G. Huh. I don't remember them at all. But yes, I'm the same Craig. ...how bad were they? Not bad at all. Actually

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Two Actions

2009-06-03 Thread Paul VanKoughnett
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Kerim Aydin wrote: I think that's in the FAQ, although maybe that's just about R104. Original ruleset defined games as ending and beginning the next one when someone won, and someone indeed did

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