Good day Agorans,
Voting has closed on proposals 311-323. The validity of six of these
were challenged. Chuck raised a CFJ on 312,313,318,319,320 which I am to
rule on, and I raised a CFJ on 322 which FSX is to rule on.
I rule now: I concur with Chuck and scshunt, amendment of an immutable
scshunt raised 2 CFJs which I was to rule on. I ruled on one with my 6th
report, and procrastinated on this one:
I invoke judgement on whether Rule 304 had the power to repeal itself
without that rule change being voted on. I think that all rule changes
must be voted on and cannot occur
I propose that rule 311 be amended by deleting the text There is no other
way to win.
Chuck
I propose to amend Rule 310 by replacing inpermissible with impermissible.
-- Walker
I propose to make Rule 109 mutable.
-- Walker
Oh. Okay. Sorry about that.
~ Roujo
On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
Re post it in formal form with all the evidence case record etc. including
Assingments in subject lines?
(Tho it's cool, I saw mine)
On Sat, 22 Jun 2013, Jonathan Rouillard
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote:
Time to do a total copout, I guess, given that I'm not paying enough
attention to sort this out by myself:
For each colour of ribbon, I attempt to award myself a ribbon of that
colour.
Treating as INEFFECTIVE as attempting
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 12:37 AM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote:
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 12:00 AM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca
wrote:
I intend, without objection, to award Murphy the Patent Title of
Indispensable Do-Nothing
On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 11:52 PM, Sean Hunt
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote:
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote:
Time to do a total copout, I guess, given that I'm not paying enough
attention to sort this out by myself:
For each colour of ribbon, I attempt
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 1:49 AM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote:
For each player in the quoted list other than Murphy and FSX, I
intend, without objection, to make em inactive.
I remind H. scshunt that these intents are now mature.
So my new server got pressed into service earlier than I'd originally
planned (due to a DHCP foulup for which this was the easiest
workaround). Anyway, here are the new links:
http://zenith.homelinux.net/agora_acronyms.php
http://zenith.homelinux.net/awj.php
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
VICTORY ANNOUNCEMENT
G. has satisfied the Victory Condition of Renaissance, and
satisfies no Losing Conditions.
-G.
Do you think, perhaps, that the threshold should be increased to 10 or
more? A characteristic
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote:
I intend (with 2 support) to make this case Notable, suggesting Rule
1504 and an annotation along the lines of GUILTY can be appropriate
for inaction during a time period, even if the case was initiated
while that time
On Sun, 23 Jun 2013, Sean Hunt wrote:
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
VICTORY ANNOUNCEMENT
G. has satisfied the Victory Condition of Renaissance, and
satisfies no Losing Conditions.
-G.
Do you think, perhaps, that the threshold
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
Now, R2395 reads:
There exists an office of Governmental Waste. This office shall
have no duties, shall make no reports, and shall exist as the
sole result of governmental waste.
Arguments: The facts that
On Sun, 23 Jun 2013, omd wrote:
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
Now, R2395 reads:
There exists an office of Governmental Waste. This office shall
have no duties, shall make no reports, and shall exist as the
sole result of
On Sun, 23 Jun 2013, Sean Hunt wrote:
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
VICTORY ANNOUNCEMENT
G. has satisfied the Victory Condition of Renaissance, and
satisfies no Losing Conditions.
-G.
Do you think, perhaps, that the threshold
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
Arguments: The facts that (a) the entity that shall make no reports
is the office rather than the officer and (b) the other two shalls are
both prescriptive rather than obligatory strongly suggest to me that,
contrary
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote:
omd's Agora-related stuff also disappeared at some point.
This too is due to an unexpected need to move to a new server. Just
tried to fix this, but it's crufty and complicated and my internet
connection has enough latency
On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 5:12 PM, woggle woggl...@gmail.com wrote:
THE SHORT LOGICAL RULESET
CoE: In rule 1871, the word Jusiticar should be CotC.
-scshunt
On Sun, 23 Jun 2013, omd wrote:
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
Arguments: The facts that (a) the entity that shall make no reports
is the office rather than the officer and (b) the other two shalls are
both prescriptive rather than obligatory
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
What did it for me was the fact that R2143 is very clear that duties
belong to 'persons', so you can say that the sum of a person's duties
includes the combined sum of the duties of all eir offices.
(and that as I
On Sun, 23 Jun 2013, Sean Hunt wrote:
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
What did it for me was the fact that R2143 is very clear that duties
belong to 'persons', so you can say that the sum of a person's duties
includes the combined sum of the
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 6:54 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
What did it for me was the fact that R2143 is very clear that duties
belong to 'persons', so you can say that the sum of a person's duties
includes the combined sum of the duties of all eir offices.
(and that as I
On Jun 23, 2013, at 2:29 PM, woggle wrote:
I judge CFJ 3339 FALSE.
...
It has been generally uncontroverisal to resolve conflicts in rules and
similar documents not handled using the usual precedences as UNDECIDABLE, even
though the judgment of UNDECIDABLE is not appropriate when true or
Regarding this rulebit:
There exists an office of Governmental Waste. This office shall
have no duties, shall make no reports, and shall exist as the
sole result of governmental waste.
Is obligated to is certainly not the only valid meaning of shall; it could
also mean will (e.g. I
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 7:37 PM, Tanner Swett swe...@mail.gvsu.edu wrote:
Regarding this rulebit:
There exists an office of Governmental Waste. This office shall
have no duties, shall make no reports, and shall exist as the
sole result of governmental waste.
Is obligated to is
On Jun 23, 2013, at 12:50 PM, Sean Hunt wrote:
GW [5] scshunt 2013-06-16 Postulated 2013-05-27 1 No
...
[5] Governmental Waste
CoE: Surely the holder of this office would be called the Governmental Wastrel.
—Machiavelli
I propose we repeal rule 219.
[ Commentary: Paradoxes suck. ]
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Had a pass on possible Ribbon alterations to make it harder but keep it
across a range of activities:
(+B) Judge a non-crimial case on time.
Keep same, good to have a cheap one to encourage civil service.
(+C) Deputize for an Office.
Change to win a contested election for an office
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
Two slots with economics (Red, Violet) ok?
-G.
I kind of like Black as an incentive to keep criminal cases in the
system (and, correspondingly, cooperation), and it's easy enough for
you to get at it by favouring. But I
Voting for 324 and 325 closed around 14:30 UTC.
324 (Chuck) passed 4:0 (Walker,Chuck,scshunt,Roujo). It transmutes 110.
Chuck +10 points by 302.
325 (Chuck) fails 2:2 (Chuck,Roujo vs scshunt,Walker).
Full report around 11:00 UTC as usual.
-Dan
Here I just number and repeat four new proposals that were made. Voting
on these closes in 24 hours.
-Dan
326 (Chuck):
I propose that rule 311 be amended by deleting the text “There is no
other way to win.”
327 (Walker):
I propose to amend Rule 310 by replacing inpermissible with
I raised a CFJ which FSX was to rule on:
I call for judgement on the validity of proposal 322. See rule 105. 322
contains a conditional:
322 (Walker):
- If the Rule initially numbered 106 is mutable, amend Rule 210 to
read ...
This isn't like the rule formerly numbered 211 which isn't a
Just re-sending with the Agora XX prefix. Sorry about that.
--
Here I just number and repeat four new proposals that were made. Voting
on these closes in 24 hours.
-Dan
326 (Chuck):
I propose that rule 311 be amended by deleting the text “There is no
other way to win.”
327
On 6/23/13 16:25 , Tanner Swett wrote:
On Jun 23, 2013, at 2:29 PM, woggle wrote:
I judge CFJ 3339 FALSE.
...
It has been generally uncontroverisal to resolve conflicts in rules and
similar documents not handled using the usual precedences as UNDECIDABLE,
even though the judgment of
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Machiavelli wrote:
On Jun 23, 2013, at 12:50 PM, Sean Hunt wrote:
GW [5] scshunt 2013-06-16 Postulated 2013-05-27 1 No
...
[5] Governmental Waste
CoE: Surely the holder of this office would be called the Governmental Wastrel.
Governmental Wastor.
G. wrote:
(+K) Judge a criminal (sentencing) case on time.
Don't like this one (incentives for sentences? though the 'black' is cute
theme). Maybe deliver a timely appeals court judgement as that seems
to be something that people flake on.
s/judgement/opinion/
Happy 20th birthday, Agora. I register as a player of Agora XX.
Steve
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